When is your trip? NZ has enacted some pretty strict rules for traveleres. Not sure if non-residents can even fly there.

SUVs still have a distinct style. They have higher ground clearance and generally aren’t shaped the same way. 

The problem is that large gatherings and fast infection rates will overwhelm our medical system. Deaths will go down if we can delay infection rates. Also, something like 15% of people require critical care. Italy has had its health care network overwhelmed and they are seeing a fatality rate of 5%. 

Uh we actually are literally dying. Figuratively dying would be if enthusiasts were dying off or something. Pollution is killing us. More people die due to the effects of global warming each year. I know cars are a relatively small proportion of that, but they still do contribute.

If I don’t get to complain about the usage of “literally”, you can’t complain about people using COVID-19 as the name of the virus. Obviously we know what it means. 

It’s got a nice wobble on it. Although, I bet if properly welded this could be strong enough for daily use. This does not look properly welded though. They should have used a jig and strengthened the spoke interface to the hub.

The average for Utah went down. Individual gas stations adjusting pricing for some reason doesn’t mean the whole state raised prices by $.20.

It’s actually cheaper if you take into consideration inflation. Adjusted, oil is ridiculously cheap right now.

First off, more expensive areas charge more just because of the market. Gas stations that pay more to lease their store obviously have to charge more for gasoline. California real estate on average costs more than most other regions.

The batteries alone probably cost over $40k. Not anytime in the near future will it go down significantly in price.

1. RVs need to travel long distances without stopping off for an hour to recharge every 200 miles. I bet range decreases with RVs as well. The average RV gets about 400-1000 miles of range. Though one benefit is that once they’re on a campground they can slowly charge their battery without having to go to a gas…

I don’t understand why some people can’t be conscious of the environment AND a car enthusiast. California has strict emissions laws but there are still plenty of enthusiasts here. Cars that meet emissions standards are making 700hp from the factory. Do you need more power?

Winter tires are made for snow traction and cold weather driving. Winter tires do just fine on cold asphalt, they’re meant to. They’re just not meant to drive on warm asphalt. 

I’ve never seen a car that came with some type of sport wheel option that couldn’t size down at least one size. My current car came with 18" wheels but can size down to 17". My previous car came with 19" wheels but I sized them down all the way to 17".

Which winter tires did you get? I never noticed a huge difference between mine. My car came stock with 19 summer tires and I downsized to 17" winter wheels/tires though. They’re cheaper and probably more comfortable and quiet as well. In Chicago, mine lasted four years and still had tread left when I sold them (moved…

Toyota used the B58 which is closely related to the S58. Both have closed decks and forged internals. The B58 is BMW’s masterpiece and the awesome thing is they put it in almost every car they make.

I thought those were supposed to be 18" wheels. Are you sure they’re not reps? They look a tad too large for the E46 M3. Even the stock F80 M3 comes with 18" wheels. The upgraded sizes (for comp and non-comp) are 19".

Right, that’s exactly what I said in my first comment:

You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. My point is that the point of things like gas guzzler tax (at least partially) is to discourage people from buying a particular type of vehicle. When it’s rolled into financing, the impact is basically invisible to financially illiterate people. For them it’s just another 2-3…

Obviously. I mean from a consumer protection standpoint. Forcing them to pay all taxes without financing would do away with sign and drive situations which are the source of a lot of bad decisions. If you’re buying a $50,000 car, then you had better be prepared to pay $4,500 in sales tax up front. And if it’s a gas…