I am no BMW fanboy, but they make some pretty great cars when they want to. And a BMW straight six engine is a thing of wonder.

Thanks for the in-depth and well written article. My only quibble would be with the headline. As an owner of a previous model Supra, I read most, if not all of the advance coverage of this car, especially the quotes made by Tada himself. It was pretty clear early on that this would be a “different” Supra in many ways. 

That's one opinion that hasn't been tested by measurable comparison or testing. I also listened to the Everyday Driver review of this car today, and Paul, who owns a Cayman GTS, thought differently about it. 

What year/generation was your Supra? I had a Gen 2 many years ago (before kids), and it was my favorite car until I bought the BRZ.

This is a very legitimate perspective. I also own an 86(actually BRZ), and I could see this car as a legitimate “upgrade” but am not sure if I want to at this point. These are two very different cars, and I am sometimes wanting more refinement in terms of ride, engine, noise,etc. On the other hand the rough and ready…

I would not be so fast to say it is not as “good” as a Cayman just yet.

If you are cross shopping between those two, all of the effort spent to make this Supra a great performer would be wasted on you.

That flat expanse of the front ledge is very “Supra-ish”, reminding me of my gen 2.

Add the Tundra and possibly TRD Tacoma as well.

Why the hell not? Right now I would want it more than the more expensive, and not necessarily better Z4 or Cayman.

If this was only about tradition you could make a strong argument that the 2+2 configuration of all prior Supra’s was the traditional and conventional default.  

How do you know? He has been very consistent since early development that this car was going Head to head against the Boxster/Cayman and that it would be a 2 seat car. 

It’s amusing to see all of the inherent mistrust of Toyota regarding this car, as if they were some evil empire. I suppose it’s just masking people’s insistence that the magic formula for this car was determined long ago, and how dare Toyota for having the affrontery for wanting something different.

Porsche's have always been pricey, but nearly 90 thou for a Boxster is just plain nuts.

Does it though? I owned a WRX, and while it was a fun car, I can't say that I was totally enamored with the sound. Conversely, I don't think the 718 engine sounds bad, it just doesn't sound like the six cylinder engine it replaced.

Recovering Porsche Nerd.

Truly, it is all about the name.

Sure, I get it, and I would have done the same, like when I had a chance twenty some years ago to buy a 911T for $5,000 when an E or an S would have cost two or three times as much. Nowadays you can add another zero to that. My only point is that if I had bought it, and somebody asked what it was I would have said a…

Exactly right, and that was the mistake. If the Boxster/Cayman originally came with a four cylinder engine nobody would have gone off the rails about a perceived “downgrade”.

Fair enough. I also happen to think the 718 is a very good car, and they were justified in offering it with a four cylinder engine in the base model, but they should have continued to have the six cylinder in the S and higher models.