“They deserved the abuse because they tried to stop it”

Thank you. I didn’t know they live in separate countries.

You know, it’s possible to answer a perfectly normal and reasonable question without unnecessary sarcasm.

The one guy lives in Texas, the other lives in England. Travel restrictions mean it’s simply not feasible for them to shoot together until all this is over and done with. (Sure, some folks are going through the necessary quarantines, but they don’t have that kind of a budget and they both have day jobs.)

Why do you want something that other people enjoy to go away? How does it hurt you that manuals exist? Just because you’ve never been able to master the skill doesn’t mean you have to be a baby about it. Let other people enjoy their manuals and you can pretend you like having a car drive you. People like to make fun…

Jalopnik is the people’s site

Old cars suck! They’re dangerous and bad for the environment. They’re also always worse driving than I remembered. These days, whenever I get into an older car they feel so damn loud and slow. They should be relegated to the garage and left off the streets.

Gas taxes should be higher. Like, much higher.

I stand corrected. Yes, reading is fundamental.

You’re on the right track. This is an area where the common interests of dealers and OEMs diverge.

Right, so- unless I’m grossly misunderstanding your argument here -isn’t this exactly why we know this is nothing more than anti-competition bullshit coming from the dealers?

They know DAMN well their relationship with the OEMs is symbiotic and practically carved in stone- they fight Direct Sale not because it would…

I’m forced to assume you’ve typo’d pretty bad here, because the truth is the opposite. In reality, Direct Sale would serve MORE people than the dealership model, because Direct Sale doesn’t rely on there being a dealer nearby. They can afford to serve everyone because they don’t have to have a brick-and-mortar nearby…

I can’t get past the name Stellantis. It sounds like Stellar and Praying Mantis. What a stupid name.

“There just isn’t a whole lot of appetite for legacy OEMs to sell direct or directly operate dealerships”

You do realize that the amount you are haggling over is the difference between what the manufacturer charges the dealer for the car and wha the dealer charges you? That dealer is getting paid to be a middleman. And you think haggling with a middleman about his share is a benefit?

Jesus man, stop talking.  The world has moved on, even if you haven’t. 

I’m laughing way harder than I should at this. He didn’t say that it has to have cheap maintenance! lol

Mercedes: The $30k-$35k target was to buy the vehicle, not the annual maintenance bill.

Good points.

I agree, I was being polite. This is basically what happened to Nikola- very few people actually read the Hindenburg report, they just read the sensationalized news around it and it made that WAY worse for Nikola than it needed to be and played perfectly into Hindenburg’s hand, helping them make shittons of money.