Good luck getting a the hybrid without a markup or waitlist though. The gas equivalent is easier to get.

Agreed. Toyota makes some odd decisions every now and then. I see the Prius V and C everywhere, they definitely sold enough to warrant another generation.

I have a 2012 M5 with 228k miles on her. I get it. This car is just that lovable. Its really good at fitting alot of things. Very few blind spots.

A word about what? As a current owner with 204k miles, its pretty damn good. Its reliable as hell. I’ve never had a serious issue with it nor have had it drain my wallet. Thats more than many Jalops can say.

All those LAX complaints coming from Monterey Park is extremely ridiculous, considering that the city is literally NOWHERE near the airport. And being in East LA, there are much louder things than a plane making a descent 15 miles away.

Thats because its just a gussied up Nissan Patrol. Overseas, they give the LC a very good run for their money. Its one of those cars thats supposed to take you to the moon and back with ease after getting hit by a missile. They’re old, heavy and thirsty, but I really can’t knock them for what they are. 

I agree. I don’t know what Sergio’s plan was, but keeping the same model on the line for 12 years and then axing it instead of redesigning it is beyond unacceptable. I hope Stellantis actually pushes products out that aren’t just Jeeps or Rams.

What is taking them so long? Seriously, they’ve been actively starving Chrysler for the last 15 years. The issue isn’t with them not being able to sell (the Pacifica holds up with the rest of Stellantis’ lineup, and the 300 sold actually pretty well for a 10 yr old full size heavy sedan). Its that they’re not being…

I agree with your “too small for the US” statement. Perhaps someone could explain to me how other countries are able to work with smaller/real midsized pickups and wagons, but here in the US a 100 foot bed isn’t good enough.

I think a part of this is that cheap cars are looked down upon. You have people that’ll say shit like “I’d rather buy a used Corolla with 50k miles for the same price”. And then you have car reviewers that complain about the lack of luxury features and constantly bring up that its a cheap and value focused car.

The VW Atlas from the get-go looks like a forgotten pre-recession gas guzzler from 2005. The coupe is somehow even worse, both in proportions and gas mileage. I couldve drawn up this design in 5 minutes.

The Kia Rio was actually a very decent car as a rental. So much so that I’d consider one. As for that and the Versa on this list, they offer alot more for your value than say any CUV in this list. So, I don’t agree with that. In fact, I can name like 5 more cars more boring than them. The first of which being the…

As an owner of a Mazda5, I don’t think I could live with any other car. Its the perfect size to seat a party for a short trip, practically a box so theres lots of room, and is quite nimble on the roads. My next car might be another 5 (or any Mazda, im a loyalist), or a Prius V. 

Its crazy to think that this model (or it’s identical sibling) was made up until 2014. I’d believe you if you said it was a 2003 model.

What kind of car do you drive??

My problem with the RAV4 and the CRV and Rogue etc isnt the fact that its a boring crossover for people that they need all the features of an Audi and self driving gimics in their $27k car.

Always doing the most because they’re too lazy to put on a MASK. You do have the right to not wear one but you DONT have the right to get OTHER PEOPLE SICK.

Now, buying one used is a whole different story. Ive seen a 15 year old 4runner with 200k miles on it go for a little under 10 grand

I just still find it odd what Ford did considering the Focus and the Fusion still did really good numbers. Not as good as they used to, but with a redesign they could improve. Same with the Cruze.