128 miles/quart (of oil). Not bad!

or if he truly believes he can do full autonomy without the LIDAR hardware that’s necessary to achieve it.

I mean eventually, maybe. Pretty sure we spend the first 3 years or so running into shit and falling down before we understand the environment enough to not hurt ourselves.

Holy shit, POStal actually made it!

They all said you were mad. But you showed them. You showed them all! 

That is basically what he did say. They showed a demo where using footage recorded from a few seconds of Autopilot, it was stitched together to create a 3D replica of the street it was driving on, including vehicles, buildings, and street signs, and they rotated around it in 3D space. It reminded me of Project Tango. H…

There are a lot of things humans can do that a computer is unable to replicate without specialized equipment. LiDAR provides exact measurements of a 3D space in the form of computer-friendly data.

Well, the fact that Tesla was far and away the first company to bring real long range EVs to market implies that literally everyone else was saying this.

But I remember quite vividly when the Roadster was first announced thinking they were full of it. And then when the Model S came out I also thought that it must be…

I do know that for years people said you couldn’t build EVs and that no one would buy them,

I’m inclined to go with your second paragraph, but hesitate. SpaceX and The Boring Company are two very solid arguments in favor of trusting Telsa and then in favor of assuming they are full of it. Musk and his companies have done some truly remarkable things and some truly idiotic things.

There’s really no point in…

I mean, I hope Tesla can do it, and *maybe* having multiple cameras might be the answer for failover, but to the end he’s arguing, humans don’t have LiDAR and humans get in all sorts of accidents because of visual misjudging.

And my eyes can easily be deceived or impaired. Until they have an organic brain in a box that runs their autonomous system, comparing a CPU to how humans achieve tasks is a fools argument. I don’t doubt that you can build a system without LIDAR or a similar tech, I just doubt the reliability of such a system.

The camera-only strategy makes sense on a theoretical level if the hardware is there to support the theory - there really isn’t any denying that.

There are a lot of things humans can do that a computer is unable to replicate without specialized equipment. LiDAR provides exact measurements of a 3D space in the form of computer-friendly data.

Not to get nitpicky, but LIDAR is an optical system, using lasers, it’s just that way, you get fast and accurate distance information.

Yeah, the engineers presentation was pretty interesting and what he said made a lot of sense. Like, yes, it’s true that humans/animals don’t have lidar and use an optical based system so there might be some truth to his claim that vision based is the way to go. I think the part I find hardest to believe is you are…

Congratulations you fucking maniac. God bless you and yours

when you stoped sending news i knew something happened....

I admit I am legitimately shocked you made it.

Congrats.