I don’t necessarily think Katy is all that smart, but I like her. She doesn’t take herself seriously, which I think is an important quality for a pop star. Taylor, on the other hand, takes herself extremely seriously, which has always killed the joy for me. If Katy has two brain cells to rub together, she’ll realize…

Katy Perry is not smart. I don’t think she’s ever done or said anything that has indicated that she’s anything more than a totally vapid run-of-the-mill popstar whose been fortunate enough to have several hit singles sent her way.

Yup, my brothers both like to date this type of woman. These ladies are not allowed in the house until they can muster a genuine smile and a sincerely kind word for all present. And if that day never arrives? Too bad, so sad. I am too 30 for this type of nonsense.

Every woman I’ve ever met who says things like “I hate drama” or “I only have guy friends because girls are sooo much DRAMA” has been a complete basket of crazy and melodrama herself. Or extremely desperate for attention.

That is the complete and total definition of a pop star, though.

Like, she’s totally cool with everything, like who keeps bringing this drama up? Like, girls are such drama. But feminism is totally cool right now.

I remember years ago she said she had never actually kissed a girl and now she says she did that and more. Like, just shut up, Katherine. I know you grew up in a super religious home but it’s 2017. Being bisexual or pretend bisexual isn’t edgy.

What was your first clue?

My takeaway is Katy Perry is thirsty af to be noticed 24/7

It did come through, and it was excellent! And thanks for the un-grey! It is frustrating though... when trying to have a discussion that is nuanced, people being black & white in general (yes, yes, I am aware that I am on the Internet, but Jaz is where I come for more thought-out discussion). There are things we all…

I think the mistake is assuming that those who celebrate their good points are blind to their problematic ones. I for one find them fascinating. There’s really no-one like them and it would be a very interesting PhD.

also for the love of God I have been here for 5 years. When will I get out of the greys :-(

YES.

But I thought “white feminists” love Swift? Wasn’t she supposed to be one of the poster children?

Personally I am of your opinion (probably more hardcore too) but when you get a sexist or discriminatory reaction/response for eating 30 bean burritos it becomes a feminist issue. It is an evil circle that derails every other conversation about anything (like, an example, me wanting to talk about the kind of…

ugh the taylor swift hate over Kanye is ridiculous. Dude was being a misogynistic asshole using Swift to remain relevant, not once but twice! Now Kim’s some saint for sticking up for her man. Kim & Kanye deserve each other.

I don’t understand how the fuck we have anyone calling a Kardashian a feminist. Kim made a sex tape and it was a big deal bc omg that ass and that is the daughter of the dude who defended OJ. Since then they have been ubiquitous. How are they feminists when their fame derives from one daughter having a great ass and…

I used to watch Bad Girls Club too, it was also a secret guilty pleasure of mine. but I could never enjoy the Kardashians. They were too stupid, vapid and boring as fuck for my taste. I rolled my eyes so hard when various feminists on twitter defended Kim K. and called her a feminist. I mean, seriously? These same…

I think they’re a very, very, very guilty pleasure and people who find them entertaining, are fans, and contribute to their unearned wealth deep down feel a sense of guilt about it. Justifying their vapid existence and fame by saying they’re feminists helps to alleviate that sense of guilt and shame.