13 pounds

Born in 81. don’t even remember this console

Hey Einstein, take it down a notch for the rest of us common folk.

2000 Civic sedan, inherited by marriage. I can tell you with confidence today that it had been in a serious accident in the past and the frame hadn’t been repaired properly. I figured this out because the exhaust pieces would never line up properly - there was always a 1-inch gap between flanges somewhere, depending…

I saw one of these on the road about 3 weeks ago. it was in fine shape - didn’t even remember them from childhood.

excellent point. completely forgot about VINs. the mailer is long gone so I can’t confirm - although I’ve had my prius serviced at this dealer before so i know they KNOW my VIN. would be interested to know if they put the VIN for the new car on.

Last week a local Toyota dealership sent me a pretty legitimate looking invoice for a new Prius (unsolicited) - at a pretty good price - along with a line item for trading in my current Prius - again, a very very generous offer considering it has been wrecked and has close to 90K miles on the ODO.

here’s how it’s done

I just bought a 2015 base Outback for $23,700 before tax & fees. It’s nowhere near $10,000 worse than the Limited specd above. There’s still hope if you can live with plastic wheel covers.

Solidarity. 85,000 miles on my Prius and agreed - best car I’ve ever owned.

who peed in your cheerios this morning?

I just bought a new Outback for practical reasons but I kinda want to get it dirty. Is there room for me to sit at the big kids table or am I going to be better off not even bothering?

It has been 95F for the last week here in NC and so relief in sight in the forecast. I refuse to believe your snow claims

I think what you’ll see is that the labor cost of driving the vehicles - at least partially - gets transferred to other areas of fleet O&M. In other words, one job lost driving the vehicle 8 hours a day but 1/x job gained for people to jockey the fleet around a depot / refueling station / maintenance facility.

They were well balanced for the time and you could get some pretty amazing interiors at the top trim line. I think it’s as close as you’re going to get

This car exists:

HERE COMES TEH WAGON HATE ;-)

Did we grow up on the same block?

You can get a 2.0 turbo in the Forester. It’s fun enough