I honestly don’t feel as though this show glorifies gun violence. Frank is portrayed as suffering from PTSD and barely holding onto his sanity at times. There’s no fetishism involved, no glorification of the act of killing. All the violence is shown as horrifying and empty. If anything, the show is a firm argument agai…

Karen Page is awesome. Haters gonna hate.

The gun control debate on the show is actually relatively nuanced. Karen isn’t just “pro-gun”. She’s a victim of violent crime who now carries a gun for protection. She also murdered a man with a gun who kidnapped her. So you can’t entirely take her side. Meanwhile, the politician rails against guns while he has…

Lewis is using violence to communicate a manifesto. Frank isn’t trying to communicate at all; he’s trying to kill specific people who he knows hurt him. Both are bad, but Frank is at least actively trying to avoid hurting innocent people, whereas Lewis has no regard whatsoever for collateral damage.

Claire is the worst. Karen had a position and after multiple threats on her life and being forced to kill a man in self defense, he position has changed.

It’s stupid how much chemistry Bernthal has with, like, everyone.

One of Canada’s greatest tragedies is that they didn’t ge to keep making this show.

“Oh Janitor! Some kid vomited in the hallway. Could you make with the sawdust and clean it up?”

Some of us are trying to nail Catherine the Great... or should I say, Catherine the So-So!

Never watched it, as it hit before I really got into adult animated comedy. Heard decent things.

Hey, get off my dinghy!

At this point, the biggest thing keeping me from watching The Orville is the Orville bros invading every single Star Trek-related thread to talk about Not Star Trek.

I can kind of forgive Lorca taking Tyler on, it reminds me of like, WWI or WWII when unless the guy was so far gone that he couldn’t stop babbling incoherently, you pretty much kept him in the fight because you needed the body. Obviously 200 years in the future they should be much better at diagnosing PTSD than we are…

That was a actually a really good plotline, and I think they would be foolish to get rid if Shazid or to cover him in Klingon makeup, so that would work.

Star Trek has already done what Orville is doing. I wouldn’t mind a few more true stand alones for Discovery but I don’t want it to react to a show that’s a live letter to what Trek was in the 90s.

The beautiful human being Tyler is the sleeper identity of Voq but wherever Discovery is now, the technology to turn him back into Voq doesn’t exist. So, he’s going to stay looking dreamy and human and stay being in love with Michael.

Are you saying this show needs more dick jokes? Or it needs to treat sexual harrassment and rape for laughs? Or maybe the federation should drug anyone who doesn’t fall in line with their requirements? Because I’m really not at all convinced Orville offers anything otherwise but nostalgia for beige sets and color…

I would be down for him killing the Klingon woman and living as Tyler permanently until a future season reveal.

I thought that was a great episode - and a wonderful mid-season finale. Not just in bringing things back around to the Ship of the Dead, but in the usage of the spore-drive while jumping around the cloaked Klingon ship. Awesome climax for the show.

Which would be great, because it would hopefully mean that we never have to see Voq again. That guy is the Milhouse of Klingons.