Thanks, dad.

He’s clearly just trying to chop up the chair and take it with him, idk what all the fuss is about.

But one “hot” “rod” that I unabashedly love is the Volvo Hot Rod Jakob,

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Thank you, that’s probably going to work much better. 

Maybe, all the dumb dolphins will choke on plastic bottles and die, leaving us with only the smart dolphins. Which would give rise to an entirely new, highly intelligent dolphin race. Who will promptly figure out how to build hydrogen-powered amphibious tanks, drive them out of the ocean, and kick all our asses for…

You know, good for Marco. And I respect the hell out of him for admitting his weaknesses, especially while dragging that crushing weight of his last name.

I can not argue with this logic. Counterpoint accepted.

Case and point. GTI > Civic (that’s not a Type R)

Counterpoint to your counterpoint.

I know the top-level Civic is a Type R, but I didn’t think that was even part of the discussion. The Type R is a different animal. But, I’ve been informed by you and another commenter that the Sport Touring is the top trim level of the non-performance level Civics.

No.

In retrospect, you and the other commenters are right, the Crosstrek wasn’t the best choice for my quick cost comparison. I think one of the most interesting results of this discussion was learning that the Veloster N starts at a similar price, though.

Man, those were the days. Sometimes, I think about how much time I’d spend trying to put the best CD playlist together before burning it. That used to be a lot of fun.

Heeeere comes the BanWagon!

Hey, I’m not saying I would, but objectively, I think the Crosstrek has just as much if not more to offer. I’m not a crossover person, whatsoever. It still seems like a lot for a Civic. Although, this thread has informed me that my perceptions of the modern Civic may be off.

The Foo Fighters are just the best.

Agreed. It’s nice, but I just can’t fathom spending that kind of money on a Civic. 

I guess I always thought the Touring trim was the highest trim level Civic. Is that not the case anymore? I think you can option a Civic even higher.

*drinks entire mug of coffee, spits all of it out*