That poor car! The AIV roadster is one of the cars that time forgot....Such a tragedy it got molested like that and it’s still overpriced. Clean ones seem to go for 40-50k last time I saw. I’ll take mine in black, please.

Me: Well, my new car payments are lower than my old one so I’ll just keep paying the same amount as before and see if I can pay it off early or just be a bit better off if something happens down the line...

I’m going to throw this out there - everything you listed comes down to people not understanding the limits and expectations of the system. ANd I will repeat what I have been saying for a while - your traction or stability control is clicking in because you don’t understand how badly you’re fucking it up.

Just throwing this out there.....Is a chance you could’ve been sliding down the hill? Like was there a lot of rushing water or snow and ice?

Oh and a general comment - don’t drive at the limit of limits in your day to day drive and TC and SC should very very VERY rarely intervene. TO summarize my usual response to this - Stop driving like a jackass and you’d be amazed how little TC matters to you.

I 100% disagree with your stance - I’ve never had any system kick in so dramatically that I lost control outside of trying to get a car moving on ice/in deep snow. And when my old Audi had a disbal eswitch for the ABS specifically because of deep snow and ice, I take that as a sign that the system was designed within…

Not gonna lie, it sounds like you just drive like a dick and then get mad that traction control exists...I live in a snow state and if I want to do handbrake slides and whatnot I understand TC needs to be turned off for that but it isn’t hard to drive with it on otherwise.

While I am in full support that the system should be able to be disabled, my point is that you shouldn’t be surprised when/how TC cuts in. That’s what I don’t understand with this argument. I have no problem feeling for the limits and when/where TC will intervene for me.

See, that’s what I learned to do - to understand what the systems limits were. I didn’t lean on it, but I learned in that car (and my own cars that have TC) when it kicks in and how it kicks in. So I know when I feel a certain stumble or shudder under acceleration or braking that the electronics are kicking in. I’d…

One of the engineers at my company says it. I always double check his numbers and designs because of it.

Not saying that you in particular are this way, but I see people at the track or at rallycross say something similar and I have to correct them that no, the traction control is fine, it just wouldn’t be turning on in the first place if you drove smoother. That’s the type of person I hear this from (and who told it to…

Any examples of this? I’ve never heard of this before.

Usually that’s when you have different sizes front to rear. But in any event, you at least know *why* it’s doing it. It isn’t being turned off because you think you’re better than it, you modified the vehicle and it doesn’t play nice with it (though the cars I;ve driven haven’t cared so long as you get the same sizes…

I’m gonna post the best, because it is related to the worst.

This is my automotive history of the past 5 years - Fiesta and Focus ST. Both bought brand new. So yes, I did put my money where my mouth was when I said I wanted to buy them.

I ride out in the boonies and back roads with twists and the riders out there are always friendly. But that’s the difference, they’re riding to ride, not to fit into a certain mold.

Yep. I started on an old honda and bought a barely used 2015 KLR 650. I could possibly see myself on some harleys but for the price, I don’t see any in my near future. Also the dealership near me focuses more on offering cheap beer and concerts than bikes. So I’m a little put off by their “brand”.

I’ve tried to explain this to people and everyone always says that that’s part of the conspiracy....Like, yeah bruh, who’s gonna fix it when it breaks? You? Then you zap yourself to death and GM gets sued for selling you a product you can’t service yourself but they can’t service it either. Great deal for GM...

A “garage baby” MR2 for under 6k? WITH A STICK? NP all day, every day. 104k on the clock is a nice sign in my eyes for this car and price. It got driven, but also maintained. A car doesn’t make it to 104k without being at least somewhat cared for, especially in that condition.

Also, free and easy advice - if the salesman gives you crap for using a calculator, ignore him. Or just walk out. I remember helping a friend buy a car and the salesman getting upset and chiding me for “being a man who needs the numbers” because my calculator math showed he was trying to sell a Focus at over 2000$…