I agree with you completely. The only point I don’t agree is when people try to say that violence is inherent to males.

Again, I’m being nitpicky, but “tend to be” is not the same as “they are.” I mean, biologically most men tend to be different from women, but I don’t feel right saying that “men are innately different from women.” And yes, biology exists for a reason, but nowadays the society is learning more about how much of the…

I mean, as I have answered several times to you before, I believe it is learned through patriarchy, culture, and society. I think maybe the book “Delusion of Gender” and the like might help, but it is taught the moment we are born, through the way we are handled, talked to, including “gender reveal parties” and colors…

It is a fact that men have been more violent than women in this world. It is not a fact that such is inherent. That’s cool, we can choose to disagree.

Ugh. I’m sorry. :( Electronic or not, if the other partner doesn’t at least care or acknowledge that you are upset (regardless of orgasm or no orgasm), then they are being fucking shitty, you know?

I guess even though I see your point and generally agree, I don’t really feel comfortable saying definitively that some gender (like men or women) is more emotional than some, because just because they TEND to be that way doesn’t mean it is always that way, and I do believe it is a generalization - just like how I…

I think it is learned from society and culture. You can disagree, it’s fine. But now people who have been telling me on this thread that princessandthepea11 “is not arguing that it is inherent” can see here that she IS arguing it is inherent.

You’re right, it’s nurture not nature and that’s the only thing I wanted to argue. And you probably don’t have time to read it all through but if you read through the threads, I swear I’m not the only one who mentions biology. Thanks

Actually yeah I did pull it out of my ass! I read like 15 fashion magazines a month and it’s all classified as “women’s magazine,” talking about women’s issues, so I assumed. I’m sorry that I was not statistically correct. And I actually like your sense of humor, if that helps.

I thought that the comments were for discussion. I don’t see why I should never speak up about something I personally think is problematic just because I’m a survivor too.

Dude, it’s really shitty of you to wrap up anyone who tries to discuss something as MRA. I don’t need to agree with everything everyone says just because it’s a sensitive topic. If you can’t have a logical answer, then the least you can do is to be mature.

Don’t we all? I have a B.A in women’s studies. I agree with you, and that’s the only thing I’ve been arguing here, that it is taught and not inherent. If you read princessandthepea11's thread, she is arguing that because statistically men are more violent, it is inherent. I was merely saying that it is not. I’m sorry…

I think maybe I’m just bad at explaining, and I’m gonna try one more. You are right. It is a pattern. I know the statistics. And as a fact that men are main perpetrators in the world. But I think, to say that such violence is “inherent” to men, is not the best analysis we can make to make this world a better place…

You are right and I haven’t thought about it that way. I thought it was a good example to argue that violence isn’t inherent to men, but I guess I was wrong. I still think violence is not an inherent quality and would disagree if anyone told me so. But I didn’t use the most accurate example.

I had a situation like that that I’m still fighting with my ex-alma mater about it because they didn’t really believe me. I liked the guy, I wanted to kiss him and all that, but I didn’t want him to pretend-choke me or playfully shove my face onto his member. I am really fucking sorry that happened to you. I know…

She is though, if you read through the threads. And I know why people are angry - because I get angry too. And we basically agree on all things except that I do not think that it is inherent. I’ve been equally abused by my parents so I should know. Not that I don’t recognize the societal differences behind their…

*associated with women, sorry I need more coffee

I agree about the designers and the jobs, but societally the industry has always been associated with men. And since you are very good with statistics, can you show me at least 3 statistics that say “time and time again proved” women’s higher libido?

“No one is saying that women are biologically non-violent”

It’s pretty unfair that you think that anyone who disagrees with thinking violence is inherent, or arguing so, are doing it to make men feel better.