thefantasticbryce
JHenry
thefantasticbryce

It really can be confusing.  For what it’s worth, you responded to me, who... Yeah, that’s more or less been my point, that it’s not a big deal for them to focus on a gay romance because it’s not a big deal them who the romance is focused on.  

Incorrect on both accounts.  I’m pretty sure I said “fuck that”, but regardless I made it clear it wasn’t their opinions but the duplicitous reasoning they used in the immediately prior response to that.  I also said they were PROBABLY a homophobe after they consistently danced around directly homophobic statements

I get that and I get there’s only so much time and energy you can spend on this sort of thing, but I’m just so tired of letting it go and just dismissing them doesn’t seem to get anyone anywhere either.

If their argument was that the show can be too heavy handed at times, I would agree, but that isn’t their argument. And more importantly “gun control” is an issue. “Gay people” is not an issue.

See if the criticism was about a particular episode or two, I’d understand completely!  Even if their complaint was that it was heavy handed.  If you look through the comments you'll see acknowledgment that they were clumsy about it, but that wasn't a satisfactory agreement point for the person I've been arguing with.

Wait you didn’t even watch the show once it started? You’re basing all of your judgements on the quality of the show, how much this aspect was a factor, how it affected the show, all on recaps?

Pictured: Ben Schwartz's effect on my opinion of this movie.

I strongly appreciate your sass! I would join in it, but lately I’m trying to genuinely engage people to... I don't even know... do my best to help people chill?

Appropriate name! I don’t LURV any of the pairings on any CW show, much less expect others to like them. I don’t consider 5th Horseman my enemy. I’m not even saying they MUST be a homophobe, even though they most likely are one. I definitely didn’t call them a racist, and I think your comment is honestly probably not

I agree that it was pretty weird to see her pining like a teenager over someone, but I think that... almost patheticness of romantically needing someone like they’re your first love is very true to people going through what she went though. I definitely agree they handled it clumsily, but I think once they evened out

You’re still specifying her romances involving being gay like that makes them different from everyone else’s romance. When your category for not being a normal romance is “it’s two women” then EVERY gay romance will focus “Specifically on their sexuality.” Yes, she had a coming out plot. It did not take up 1/3rd of

Soooo, they acted hastily to a social media panic attack, then after the fact aren’t willing (or able? I won’t assume there’s more under the hood here than we see) to admit that they made a PR based decision they maybe disagree with creatively.

I think it’s normal human behavior for everyone to latch on to crazes. Something gets old and then something new and fresh comes along! But then everything new and fresh EVENTUALLY feels old, no matter how good it is. I think media goes in circles because eventually people haven’t had something in so long that they

Came here to say this.  

I actually DO agree with everything you’ve said here. I remember at the time questioning if this was part of the plan for her character before the jump to CW, and felt the transition was extremely clumsy and came close to “special episode”y, but I also felt that it evened out, at the same point you feel it did.

If I’m angry, it’s because of duplicitous reasoning, not because of your opinion. You asked me a yes or no question. If I say yes I agree with your entire argument, and if I say no then I’m so illogically cemented in my opinion that I can’t be reasoned with? That’s an unfair way to treat those who disagree with you.

No fuck that. You can be better than that. If you’re homophobic, whatever. You’re allowed to be. But don’t come comment on an article praising a tv show, pretend it did something TO you by having a gay person, and then pretend your homophobia and irrational anger over it are some subjective difference of critical

By what? Having a single gay main character? Adding a single transgender character in season 4?  Yeah I'm going to say Supergirl isn't really digging for approval there.

Yes, Kara and Mon-El’s relationship was a HUGE issue for people, but people don’t call Kara and Mon-El’s relationship a “social issue.” People don’t call James being Guardian a “social issue” even if they think it’s dumb. People don’t say that the show was shoving things in their face when J’onn reconnected with his

Umm, it sounds like your idea of what is acceptable is based around how well you can ignore its existence.  They spent two whole seasons focusing on Kara’s relationship with a guy, why is it a problem that they spent the B plot of some episodes focusing on Alex’s relationship with a girl?  It’s only a social issue if