You misunderstand. This is the normal PS+ policy. The "upgrade" is not a discounted version of the game, its an upgrade in the form of a massive DLC pack. The PS+ policy has always been that if you got the game free, you lose access when you are not a member, no matter how much DLC you bought for it or what that…

You misunderstand. This is the normal PS+ policy. The "upgrade" is not a discounted version of the game, its an upgrade in the form of a massive DLC pack. The PS+ policy has always been that if you got the game free, you lose access when you are not a member, no matter how much DLC you bought for it or what that…

Their true intentions? They have had this policy since day one with PS+. You stop paying, you lose access to the game. What people are confused about is they think that $50 is a discounted price for the game, which is false. Its an "upgrade" (i.e. you are buying the rest of the game in the form of DLC). The…

The policy in play is: If you get a game free on PS+ you lose access to that game when not a member, even if you buy DLC for that game, EVEN if that DLC is $50 (which is what you are buying, "the rest of the game as DLC" NOT a discounted game). They made a special exception to that normal policy so that you could…

Then PS+ would have to be much, much, more expensive, or the only games they can give out are half a decade old and already had their turns in bargain bins (like MS's Games with Gold).

Thats all they are doing. The $50 is not a discount on the full game, its "the rest of the game as DLC" which means you lose access to the core game when you are no longer a PS+ member. They made a special exception for this game now, so you keep it after you bought the DLC for it because spending $50 should net you…

This is not true. They are not offering a discount, which is where the confusion is. The $50 is for a massive DLC pack containing the rest of the content. This means that the core game is still classified as a freebie, and being so, you lose access when you stop paying.

The normal PS+ policy is you lose access to a game that is a freebie, even if you buy DLC for that game, EVEN if that DLC costs $50. They are now making a special exception for this game.

They key here is that you are NOT paying $50 for the full game (this is a misunderstanding that the majority seems to have). You are paying $50 for a massive DLC pack (to get the rest of the missing content), with the core game (a $10 value) still a PS+ freebie. So as per the standard PS+ rules, you lose access when…

What did they attempt? PS+ has always had this policy. The $50 purchase was a massive DLC pack. The core game was free on PS+ and like any PS+ purchase, even if you buy DLC for it, you lose access when you stop subscribing. They should not have classified this as DLC, which is the issue.

You misunderstand. With PS+ if you stop subscribing you lose access to the game. If you bought DLC for the game, you still lose access to the game. The $50 upgrade was considered a massive DLC pack. This is no different than any other game on PS+ except that they split it into core game, and "the rest of the…

That's not true. If you pay anything at all, even discounted, its yours forever. and does not require PS+ to continue to use. The exception to this is that if you got the game free, but you bought DLC for the game, when your PS+ lapses you lose access to the game (and the DLC is useless without the game). This is…

I dont think you understand the difference. If you get a game free on PS+, and your subscription lapses, you lose that game. Even if you bought DLC for that game with real money, you lose access because the core game was a freebie.

They did not technically change it for DriveClub. The core game is free, the "upgrade" is actually considered DLC. As with any PS+ game, you still lose access to it when you are not a subscriber even if you bought DLC for it. The fact that they classified it as DLC was the problem.

While I did like Vivi's portion of the game, his character could not make up for the lame, often cheeseball cast. The game systems, over world, etc... were great. A throwback to classic FF. But the rest of the characters were either flat, taken from the three stooges, or just nonsensicle. I am sure this was…

Whst metric did you use to rank them? Common opinion? Your opinion?

Vivi was OK in a vacuum but FF9 was pretty weak, unfortunately.

I am not contradicting myself, you are failing to read everything I write. I said, early on in our conversation, that I looked up help to fight a boss because I was having trouble, and it just so happened that I was at the end of the game, and its shortly after that point (I looked around for some other things to…

I hate mobile gaming and its game companies charging $1 or free* (with ads, micro transactions, etc...) that fuels such hatred. Square charging $10-$20 for their games and indies like FTL doing the same, is the only way to pull mobile gaming out of the gutter.

The problem being that I was not aware that I was nearing the end of the game. I was playing through like any other FF game, like any other RPG I have played in decades. Its the only one where I stumbled on the end and didn't realize it because it was so short. How can I judge a game by its length when I didn't…