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The data is out for early Tesla/Chevy Volt/Nissan Leaf. The air cooled leaf shits out in 10 years. However, thermally managed batteries should routinely go 15 (though some won’t to be sure).

The Chevy Bolt has entered the chat

Fwiw it’s really only the air cooled batteries that shit out at 10 years. The early Tesla and Chevy Volt batteries with liquid thermal management seem to go about 15 years

The PlugShare app alleviates 99% of those concerns tbf

Do you have time to speak about our lord and savior Chevy Bolt?

Phones use battery chemistries that prioritize energy density at the expense of longevity. EVs use different chemistries that have longevity in mind. Also, most EVs (except the Leaf) thermally manage their batteries. Tesla Roadster batteries seem to average 15 years and early Chevy Volts are still going strong at 12

Most new ones allow you to customize how much to charge. Tesla let’s you be specific, and new Bolts do too (though my 2017 doesn’t, it just has Hilltop Reserve which limits charge to 90%)

Phones are a different use case. The specific battery chemistries are designed for energy density and not life span. EV batteries are designed with life span in mind

Not to mention those devices are even worse since they don't thermally manage their batteries. I wish laptops would let you limit charge to 80% like the cars do

Do you have the long range battery or the LFP battery in your car? If it's LFP then lifespan is a non issue, those batteries run basically forever (they just aren't as energy dense) and you can charge them to 100%. It's the traditional lithium ion batteries that you should only charge to 80%

A point of Clarification: always have your EV on the charger if not in use. The battery reduces how much it will thermally manage if you don’t have it plugged in. Set the charge limit to 80-90% to avoid degradation and keep it plugged in so it can thermally manage and you'll maximize the life

If the Bolt is your only car, just rent something for road trips. It's easy to think spending 1 hour out every 3 at a charger isn't as big a deal but it's an epic pain in the ass. I have a plug in hybrid for my road trips. The Bolt is good for trips to Cleveland or Pittsburgh but not much further than that for me

I own a Chevy Bolt—this is true but only if you don’t preheat. If you preheat the car and battery, it’s really not as much of a drain. I just did a 120 mile round trip in winter. I had about 40 miles of range left at the end (I only charge up to 90%). Not many people drive more than 120 miles ever

2 things:

They just announced a factory in Mexico with the intent to build it, so this isn't just idle gossip 

I have a Chevy Bolt. It looks identical to a Honda Fit from a distance and the inside has the same sorcery (i.e. cab forward design) to make it massive in spite of exterior size.

I had the same problem with a Blink charger yesterday...after reading this article I downloaded the new app....so thanks!

Waymo already offers driverless cab services in Pheonix and I think San Francisco?

Why wait a few years? A Chevy Bolt is half the price of a Tesla. I love mine, just wish it charged faster.

Musk has always been that way, the spotlight just wasn’t as bright. He comes from the “PayPal Mafia,” i.e. Peter Thiel who is a far right POS.