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Oh look, another “I’ll just selectively choose which parts of a definition to legitimize” person.

Oh boy. That’s just what people need: Another point in a speaking conversation to ask “wait, t-h-E-y, or t-h-A-y?”
See also: “We have enough of those [,too | two].”

Another commenter posted the actual definition of gender in the thread. If you look up the definition of “sex” and compare, I think you’ll be surprised.

“Proper” is referring to men by the pronoun “he” and women by the pronoun “she.”

Okay!

I’ll ask this bluntly because you fail to address it every time it’s brought up:

AssholesPeople “misgendered” Chelsea Manning intentionally over the whole Harvard thing, assholesthey do it to Caitlyn Jenner all the time, etc.

I didn’t make up my own personal pronouns. I’m using the ones most other people are using. The ones I cited are in the curriculum for entire countries.

No, it’s how people use pronouns today.

Anyone gets to make up words, any time they want. Whether or not they feel special about themselves. It’s super easy. Look: Harnle!

Because it’s not archaic. It’s still how people use pronouns.

I appreciate that, but there have been countless articles, op-eds, and think pieces that probably do a lot better job in handling the subject matter (with more credibility) than “some pedantic, cishet, white dude”. Hopefully people give those a read!

I said that throughout history, they’ve (like everyone else) have always been referred to as “he” if they were male and “she” if they were female.

Yeah, but most people who are for the collective “they” are arguing from a place of tradition, rather than logic, which is WHY they’re linguistically conservative.

Agreed. There should be a standardized set, promoted by style guides and the dictionaries, as you recommended.

I’m not calling you out for not accepting my opinions. I’m calling you out for not ENGAGING with my points.

Star for the edit. I had a laugh. =)

The collective use of “they”, rather than the plural (it IS a plural collective, but I would be just as comfortable with it as a singular collective). But yeah.

Society in the US treats people that are male as male and females as female.

You’re probably right in that we have to agree to disagree. There’s nothing that screams “other-ness” to me more than the use of “they” in this article.