Please stop, you’re making it worse.

That’s my favorite rule! There are also super practical rules about digging latrine trenches away from camp. Like, THIS IS IN THE BIBLE.

thank you so much for sharing this. i’ve read some other things on this site over the years (of course, no specific examples spring to mind right now because for some reason coffee isn’t working today) about Christian women, i think Mormons in particular, who struggle enormously with having sex (however they choose to…

Wait, me?

It’s pretty great, the only downside is that no one really “gets” it when you’re growing up. I remember being in an English class in high school and our teacher asked the class if we thought atheists could raise moral children, and I think just about everyone was like “duh, no, without god/bible/afterlife, why would…

But that isn’t a doctor’s job. A doctor should not be in the business of lying to patients or fathers about the importance/relevance of a hymen. And printing certificates? This all heads into unethical territory. I know I’m just a lowly vet student, but the certificate giving that vets do kinda annoy me, too - it…

Me too since no actual licenced medical doctor would sign such false certificates. It is physically and medically IMPOSSIBLE to tell if someone is a virgin.

A younger cousin of mine was taken to a purity ball by her father. She had a purity ring and everything. When she was about fifteen, she showed it to me and said, “This is my purity ring. It isn’t working.”

There is no medical way to prove virginity and this is not medical care.

It’s not a medical “thing” though. You can have an intact hymen and have had intercourse. You can have a non intact hymen and have never had sexual intercourse. Most competent, ethical doctors refuse to “certify” if someone is a virgin because it is impossible to determine medically.

I should have been more explicit. “Not all women are born with a hymen” includes, completely, transwomen. The state of one’s genitalia has nothing to do with worth, whether that is a state of implied purity or a state of implied correctness.

Elizabeth Smart talks a lot about this very thing.

Same here. I have no idea if I never had one or it broke some other time, but there was definitely no sex-related breaking/tearing/bleeding.

Same. I never really understood when I was kid what the hell I hymen was. I explored down there long before a penis ever did, and never knew what happened to mine. Definitely never bled or had pain or anything like that.

There’s that. All those were excellent points.

“I have assisted women in labor who have “intact”, stretchy hymens, and even seen babies born over that hymen twice.”

OMG—the Virgin Mary suddenly seems like a possibility...

The thing that people so rarely talk about in this situation is how massively emphasizing virginity like this makes it almost a part of some womens’ lives, so even though they are now “allowed” to have sex with their husbands, they can feel hollow and worthless now that they no longer have this “important” thing as…

Obligatory women’s health nurse post.

The one who performed her hymen reconstruction surgery, that’s who.

I’d like to know what doctor actually signed off on this.