I think that is the difference right there. People who buy Lotto tickets know they are not really going to win. People who buy ‘scratchers” really think they are going to win.

Or...

Body kits do more harm then good almost as a rule. Although it would be interesting to see the world’s first body kit that tones down the crazy.

By the time you add intake, headers, exhaust, chip/tune and LSD you’re probably in Si range. Your insurance will be cheaper with the base model but if you need to use that insurance they aren’t going to pay you for a single upgrade. Money wise it’s probably going to be better to buy the Si and enjoy it. They if you…

The Si has always had significantly less horsepower then the type R’s. I don’t think they worry about Type R sales at all. It’s Si sales they want and base model sales they just outright need. The Si has always been the bargain model. To make your base the same as an Si is several thousand bucks so why not just get…

I was hoping for 230 when I saw the Type R had 306.

depends on how crazy you want to get. People have been getting 600+ hp out of twenty year old tiny Honda engines for over a decade.

I kind of hate the wheel arches myself. I can stand a fake vent but the wheel arches just look so awkward to me. I miss the EG roundness that this clear lacks. This has Prius Lexus angle disease.

I still think it looks better then the Civic and everything else with fake intakes and grills.

Seriously.

Yeah but you also don’t want to look back in the parking lot at it either. It has rental car fleet looks.

I’d wager the Civic will drive better: the steering, brakes and suspension will all just feel a step above, just like the snick of the transmission.

They are the best looking gen by a wide margin tho’.

Crazy town?

That ignore the visual part has big consequences on both sides tho’.

Good job on the car! How many beers did it take you?

Mini Cooper? Huh... Wha...what were we we talking about Paul? I think I’ve been

Having lived in a few of those higher cost neighborhoods my off the cuff guess would be they may have the same accident rates, but the likely hood of theft and vandalism is probably higher. I know when I moved from Potrero Hill to the Outer Richmond my car insurance dropped like forty percent. My 4Runner was broken…