You just keep saying “nuh uh” as if repeating it is somehow going to make your assumption correct. Was a vegan mean to you once and now you’ve decided to go on this crusade?

Look, we can do this dance all you want. But you’re the one stringing together a few facts to make a conclusion that doesn’t flow from those facts. I learned this in my Logic 101 class in college. Your conclusion is not supported by your premises. You need more information for your conclusion to be true. The burden of…

You think vegans are sitting around eating a bunch of highly processed fake shit when that’s not what we do.

Right, because gorillas are dairy farmers. Fucko.

No, I don’t agree with your comparison. You are comparing a highly processed vegan food item to a non-processed, non-vegan item. It is logically equivalent to comparing highly processed and non-processed items that are both non-vegan.

Maybe if we all click on this unsubscribe link he’ll go away!

And you've determined that it's a safe generalization, based on what exactly? Your own assumptions? 

Look, I know vegans can be preachy and annoying as shit, and they’re easy to hate. Hell, before I went vegan, my sister did, and I gave her shit about it. I even like the joke, “You know how you can tell someone’s vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.”

Or maybe the bank asked her what she was going to do with the nutrition diploma, and she said something like, “I’m going to be a nutritionist focused on a vegan diet.” 

Nice non-comparison there. Of course whole foods are better than packaged foods. Whether vegan or otherwise. It’s not like we vegans go around eating a bunch of packaged foods all the time. 

I’m vegan and I did it to be nice to animals. I was already super into health and fitness before I made the switch and have continued to be. Maybe don’t generalize about a whole group based on your experience with one member of it.

I’m not trying to get you to change your mind. Just saying why I would rather have the i30 N. Personally, I already have a hopped up BMW 335xi coupe that has a marginal-at-best back seat. I can put people back there in a pinch, which I don’t need to do often, but it’s tight.

Uh, I’m in the US too. The compromise I’m referring to is the Veloster N is less practical than the identically-performing i30 N. Same applies when comparing the Scirocco to the GTI. The Scirocco isn’t any faster. It just looks more interesting.

I’m sure like any other performance-oriented turbo car there’s a large aftermarket. But at least in most circles, the number of people going so far as to build their motors is a much smaller subsection of people than those who stick with bolt-ons and tunes. Especially when you’re talking about someone taking an RS and…

My local Hyundai dealer promises you’ll have a great experience! 😉

My whole point is that the i30 body style is much more useful day to day with a bigger back seat and much better rear visibility. The appeal of hot hatches to me is the mix of performance and practicality. Both the Veloster and Scirocco compromise practicality for looks. Which is fine, but in the US the Veloster is…

I agree the Veloster is a stupid form factor which is why I like the i30 N better and would’ve preferred Hyundai bring it to the US instead of making the Veloster the first N vehicle here.

I grew up in the DC burbs in Maryland and went to Wisconsin for college. I remember coming home from orientation the summer before my freshman year and telling my mom how shocked I was that most random people crossing your path not only acknowledge your presence but actually say hello, and everyone is always holding…

The i30 N and Veloster N both roast the GTI for equivalent money.

Well, for one thing, I already have a cool car that’s not broken (at the moment)...