Yes, how do we value a regularly cleaned house and healthy and cared-for children? Certainly not with rent deposits, housing values, renovation costs, healthcare expenses, the costs of the havoc potentially wrought by unfocused and unsupervised children (including property damage), or the costs of supporting adult…

Oh, hai! Leaving out how much women should be paid for playing therapist, coach, and secretary for their families, just look at how much housework is done as unpaid labor:

I just read all your posts in this thread and wanted to note how right I think you are. Oh, my goodness, what a lot of thankless labour you’re doing here trying to correct stupidity.

Except it does.

Maybe we should stop doing it then? Let’s see how things go.

A relatively clean house and CPS not knocking on your door because the kids havent been picked up in 6 hours is worth a lot if you ask me.

Look at you handling a whole subthread in the comment section

The fact that someone fed, cared for you, and taught you basic life shit holds no worth? You’d be the same person (and alive) if, from birth, your guardians just left you home alone while they worked?

“3. People often confuse confidence with competence, which means a lot of big talking men get put into positions of power even when it is clear they are incompetent.”

Stop it! Your social science studies are ruining his point. Next you’re going to bring up historical evidence of intentional and malicious discrimination against women and minorities.

He also acts like women want work/life balance just because, rather than their male partners often don’t clean the house, pick up the kids from school, stay home when they’re sick, etc etc etc. Emotional labor is very real: http://www.metafilter.com/151267/Wheres-My-Cut-On-Unpaid-Emotional-Labor

OMG this! My threshold for contributing to class is that I thoroughly understand the material AND have something substantial AND novel to add. With guys, they seem to believe they’re blessing the proceedings with the sound of their inane, uninformed fucking voices.

i’m sure these aren’t the same guys who talk over female colleagues 5 years later.