The argument isn’t that they’re “lesser,” animals, it’s that there are fewer animals being killed on a vegan diet.

No, most vegans do it to feel superior.

No, most vegans do it to feel superior.

Most vegans are doing what they’re doing for ethical reasons. It ain’t actually the eating of animal products that’s the issue, it’s the purchasing of them - because that financially supports a production process that’s harmful to animals and the environment. It’s like someone encouraging a boycott of fashion…

Also, the central feminist criticism of Original Flavour Beauty And The Beast can’t actually be fixed unless you’re going to completely change the plot, because there’s not really a way to make a non-fucked up love story that starts with one party holding the other prisoner.

Yeah, I used to watch all her shit as a nerdy teenager ten years ago, and I find the fact that that was her half-assing kind of impressive, given how much I learned from the experience. Especially given she was, I think, in her early twenties and just starting film school at the time.

I should’ve been clearer - are these organizations and activist groups trespassing, installing hidden cameras, and/or going undercover as employees on just a 5% chance that they’ll strike gold? Or is it that when they decide to risk arrest, spend money on hidden cameras, or spend weeks or months getting themselves…

If it’s so rare and there isn’t an issue with factory farming despite what basically every animal protection group says, how are videos like that so common? Why is the industry passing laws to punish whistleblowers and keep videos like that from appearing?

Fuck, the video didn’t embed.

Okay, I’m just going to quote the ASPCA page.

Does the purpose we intended for livestock mean that they can’t suffer, can’t feel fear or distress or happiness, or don’t want to live? Is dogfighting or cockfighting justifiable, so long as the animals are bred for that purpose? Is their life and suffering meaningless if we don’t go and bet on said fights?

So just to be clear, your argument is that we should keep eating meat to ensure that livestock are kept in an endless cycle of being bred, suffering in factory farms and poorly regulated abattoirs, slaughtered at a fraction of their natural lifespan, and finally eaten? Because that’s better than breeding fewer…

Given where that burger came from, I’m not sure I’d call this uplifting. Massive fast food chains like Burger King are reliant on factory farms that have maximized profit and efficiency at the cost of animal welfare. Though 95% of farm animals in the US are factory farmed anyway, according to the ASPCA. That burger…

Those rules are about labelling. They don’t cover verbally responding to a customer’s questions at a market, and it would be hard to bust a market stall for lying as such - because there wouldn’t be any record they’d done so in the first place.

I’d say calling throwing liquid on someone’s outfit violence is a pretty significant stretch, yeah. I guess if the liquid was acid or something similarly destructive, or if the aim was to get paint in people’s eyes and hurt them that way, it’s be violence. Otherwise, seems more like petty vandalism.

I’d actually really love to do that - I could possibly make a Youtube video about it.

And when they’re at a market, selling a product directly to consumers, they’re salesmen. Sometimes salesmen aren’t all that honest.

TIL that the idea that market salesmen lie about their products sometimes is a conspiracy theory believed only by idiots.

Copy-pasting my other comment:

99% of chickens are raised in such awful conditions because it’s by far the cheapest way to do so, and the guys at the farmer’s market are subject to the same economic pressures as the ones selling to supermarkets. And hey, if you can market factory farmed chicken as super high…

If you’re concerned about animal welfare, the American Humane Certified label doesn’t mean the chickens were treated well. They’re not even required to be allowed outside. The label has previously had complaints filed against it by animal advocacy group Mercy For Animals because they were certifying factory farms.