that's what Mercedes wants you to think..

large van-shaped crossovers don't count. The r63 is a Pacifica with a bigger engine. No sliding rear door, no minivan.

yup; been out of work for some time now too; if i had a job, the renegade trailhawk would be our next vehicle. we don't need something as large as the Grand'. The Cherokee is nice, but we like the Renegade better. We like our Jeeps square I guess. lol

Been through several cars; 2 neons (loved both, miss the ACR); a…

was bored; did this.. lol

well, we're talking about 2006-2007; when both models were relatively new. And, coincidentally, before the bottom dropped out of the economy. We lost our Patriot due to that... 1 car later, i won a Dart, 8mos after that, i lost it too.. (was totalled in a multi-vehicle wreck by a CTS).. now I'm in a 4wd WK Grand…

it was one of the considerations while we were replacing my neon.. Ended up with a Patriot. Lol

I just see this, with 'not an explorer' mods..

likely GRC. Pastrana is back in a subie this year

I've actually seen a couple on the road. I wouldn't ever buy onemyself tho

Same with off-roading. Lol

same story for us, sans diesel availability. That transmission was probably the reason the smart never sold well here.

true enough.. Lol

until you see the front bumper? Lol

torn between first generation insight and panel delivery vehicles (we have a 64 jeep wagoner panel, and a 65 Chevy c10 panel) and I have a thing for sedan deliveries.. Except the HHR..

the styling worked, but they didn't produce it like they should have. It should've only been available as the RALLYE package styling, instead of the fugly thing Daimler actually produced..

likely design studies for the Transformers' series. They're all over-dramatic and hyper-stylized.

drifters don't "handle", they use body-roll in a highly modified vehicle that's entire purpose is to go sideways at high speeds. It depends on how you want to do it; you either stiffen everything up so nothing moves & all the inertia goes to the wheels directly, or you let the body-roll do the work for you, by rolling…

The one on the right is a CJ5 (or 7?), not a wrangler, not a renegade.
Renegade was a trim package; available for every jeep on the market back then...

What you are looking at in the black one, is a non trailhawk model.. its going to be lower.

Or, you can get the Trailhawk bumper (if not the actual model) — since it has a different bumper and tow hooks n stuff, and is generally more suited to off-road ..