Agreed it’s power.... TO WEIGHT that matters. is 2700lbs light for a car.. yeah.. for a 200hp sports car that costs 30k... not quite there yet fellas.

200hp and the torqueless-wonderness of the fa-20 means the car feels slow. IT FEELS SLOW you could shed another hundred pounds and it would still feel slow. If it had 200hp from a torquey turbo 1.6 or something the answer may be different.

Hell my 525 horsepower Shelby feels torquless and slow if you roll on to it in…

Slowing fuel cars is out of the question... the entire draw of fuel cars is the experience of witnessing a 3-4 second bomb be controlled to go in a straight line at over 300mph... longer shut downs? Brakes that work ? things like that make sense but cutting back on the 10000-15000hp teams are making... out of the…

honestly 987/981 cayman S would be a great car for this. 

No... no it isn’t...
This is a great sports car that you can track-ish if you’re nice to it.

Reading this a second time... Crashes car... needs more power?

the 100+ hp would be needed if you are towing in the mountains.

The excuse now as it always has been is:
I’m not going to try to find a place to stick the $30,000.00 worth of batteries it takes to run these things. 

Honestly while I feel the company is in a relatively good place product wise.  i think blunders like the mach-e being a mustang and canceling all cars at once seems to be reason enough to let these guys go. 

honestly, despite the unfortunate name this is going to be a revolutionary car for the industry.... more-so than the prohibitively expensive teslas imho

Mach-E is fine.. but making “mustang” a brand is sad.

Grab a gt350 before they die...
I cut laptimes similar to a 350-400hp modified to shit brz... stock....

:no:

I’m probably in the minority and a sucker for green, but, i like it.

Never has a car been more appropriately named than the prowler.

or is that what jeep did with a prototype they’ve shown us every time they update the chassis ?

Seriously though... atleast they both care... i’m all for an off road arms race paralleling the HP arms race... LETS DO THIS!

Everyone gets a  4000+ lb vehicle with all the horsepower!!!!!!!!!! 

Lesson:
Step:1 Buy crappy anemic rwd car with low miles and wait till it becomes a classic.
Step:2 Profit

 Soo... go buy some toyobarus, and park them in your shed. 

So what I do to shop for cars and get respect without showing up with a suitcase full of cash or handing my social to every dealer in town is I go to MY BANK and get a pre approval for a loan in the ball park of what I’m willing to spend. This allows me to test drive about anything I would need to and also lets them…

Hmm, I would say the bigger issue is that bmw was known for reliable cars and their direct injected turbo engines aren’t widely known as reliable. The base engine is strong but, water pump failures, turbo failures, fuel pump failures and injection failures plague the stigma of bmw right now. Each of these repairs also…

Honestly any one who affiliates a crack pipe with any particular ethnicity may be the problem themselves. 

It’s called the ranger... and they make it...

I just need this thing to tow 6000lbs in some form