Lousy marketing.

Ok, so those are the gamers they're talking to with this. That makes more sense. Thanks.

Then help me out please and answer the question. Because without a reasonable answer to the question, your response doesn't make much sense.

I have no idea what you just said.

Played 2, 3, and MW1 and part of MW2 and had enough. Never played multiplayer. It's clear you're making some point but I'm not sure what it is.

Why would this grant bragging rights? Is it just me or do these guys treat gamers like we're some weird subculture that prioritizes stupid shit? I mean, yeah, gaming is our hobby, but we don't take it that seriously. Do we?

I totally believe it. Isn't it insane? Even having had them this long, I still can't believe how long they last.

I like the orange one. Would be better with white buttons, but you're right. The orange spice controller is one of the best colors. I also really liked the odd blue 360 controller they released a few years ago.

Was thinking the same thing on the orange one.

Maybe I wasn't clear. My PS3 controllers will be dead in 2 weeks whether I play once, twice, 10 times or never. The batteries just drain, even if I don't use them. The Wii-U pro controller can go MONTHS with no use and not drain. And it lasts almost as long if you play regularly. I Bought my Wii-U pro controller at…

All they really need to do is add analog on the triggers. Otherwise, the pad is pretty much perfect. Best I've ever used. I was totally skeptical about the thumb stick placement but now that I"m used to it, I prefer it over my 360 pad which I also love. The thumbstick tension is so perfect, light but tight. The d-pad…

Took the words right out of my mouth. For me it was a tossup between the wavebird and the 360 pad. Both are great. But the new Wii-U pro controller, is hands down the best controller I've ever used. I was totally skeptical about the symmetrical analog sticks but now that I've gotten used to it, I definitely prefer it.…

So, let me get this straight. MS gave you games permanently, while Sony gave you games for as long as you were a paid subscriber. Then, MS nerfed their program to match the Sony program such that on both, you'll only get access to the game for as long as you subcribe. Now, Sony is out nerfing MS by making it so you…

Could use a better "c stick" and if if they got rid of the octagonal stick housings. I loved it thought. Wavebird forever!

I think maybe you're separating something that is just 2 parts of the same reality. People don't want to give something a chance that they don't want to begin with. Motion is gimmicky. Sure, it does cool things and has a lot of potential, but ultimately, developers want to make traditional video games. The Wii should…

I don't think it's that people "won't LET" xbox do what it's trying to do. It's that people "don't WANT" what it's trying to do.

I caught holy hell for that opinion. So many people jumped up to tell me how stupid I was and how I didn't understand business or whatever. I just call em like I see em and to me, it was a no brainer they would be offering without kinect.

Glad I held my breath. :)

Someone just commented on this thread so it popped up in my feed. I went back and read. Like 2o people "guaranteed" me that MS would never sell xbox without Kinect. Whoops. :)

Someone just commented on this thread so it popped up in my feed. I went back and read. Like 2o people "guaranteed" me that MS would never sell xbox without Kinect. Whoops. :)