Ok Utah Dad, you should change your sect’s name so it sounds less like Moron.

I mean, it’s not the same men. The ones who are too squeamish to touch the breasts of a strange, dying woman are the same ones who would never think of assaulting a woman — and are lousy allies because they have trouble believing that other men would.

I think it’s because men, are for the first time, self-conscious about the way they act around women and it’s totally disorienting for them. Women are conditioned from childhood to be sensitive to how others, especially men, respond to them and to modify literally everything about themselves-their bodies, voices,…

Oh fuck off. It is not a reasonable request to want a safe work environment free of harassment but also want the opportunity to advance. Never being in a meeting alone with a man would demolish my career, because I ONLY WORK WITH MEN. I will not accept that I just can’t do my dream career because the poor men just…

I am a married woman who has worked in several male-dominated workplaces and has many male friends. There has never been a misunderstanding, nor have my friends or colleagues felt the need to touch me in an uninvited way or harass me. I make a point of socializing with my male colleagues so that I won’t miss out on…

This may be a shocking suggestion, but seeing as how you are married. Even if a women is giving off “mixed” signals that you just simply cannot interpret. Don’t try to fuck her you are married. You are trying to sound like some super awesome gentleman, you aren’t by your own admission you are a creep who would cheat…

I feel you. I’ve lost opportunities because I didn’t have a Facebook profile, lost opportunities because my Facebook profile was private, lost opportunities because my Facebook profile didn’t have enough/recent posts, and lost opportunities because of posts on my Facebook profile. Social media is shit and employers…

I do have to agree with this. No one has the right to touch her without her permission, or harass her, but it’s totally contradictory to also participate in this contest which blatantly reinforces the sexual objectification of women.

*shrug* I think you’re splitting hairs. I don’t really give a shit what it’s called - it’s unethical, and the practices these MLM companies are used are frequently found to be unethical, resulting in settlement payments.

There’s a point in this video where Jon gets mad at the Herbalife guy for spinning an FTC ruling into a positive for the company. I’m kind of shocked Jon got mad a this, I actually feel like its really, really great for people to see such blatant examples of how facts get spun around because every single brand and…

Sorry, did you mean to respond to someone else? Because I specifically noted what makes a scheme illegal as defined by the FTC is when the primary objective is making money through recruiting other people rather than selling goods or services to people unaffiliated with the organization.

How is it that the Desiree Fairooz story hasn’t hit this site yet?

That’s true. But, I think the propriety of using that pageant as a forum to discuss objectification is a touch questionable.

I think the “common” understanding of a pyramid scheme is it’s inherently illegal so that’s why the MLM people don’t want their “business” described as a pyramid scheme even though by definition it’s a pyramid scheme. But the FTC definition of an illegal pyramid scheme is more circumscribed doesn’t include a…

Yes, but where it becomes dicey is when the product suffers a steep decline in quality when the company scales up rapidly (to the point where it is essentially worthless). LulaRoe is known to both a) have serious quality control issues and b) not allow its consultants to actually choose their inventory packages, so…

Alright so nothing against the message being spoken at all, but is it crazy to anyone else that they are using their platform in a MISS BUMBUM pageant to vocalize this message? The whole reason a pageant like that was started in the first place was to judge women by their looks! That’s like if someone used their…

This was what came to mind!!!! I wish all the shady MLM pawns would watch this!

I think it would be more progressive to eliminate the need for a Ms. Bumbum pageant.

My understanding is that if they are actually selling a product, it doesn’t meet the definition of a pyramid scheme. So even Amway and the “leadership” companies (possibly the same thing?) are selling something you can order, even though the very clear point of the company is to get more people to sign up to be sales…