Do we think there was a big order from a fleet customer they couldn’t turn down? 

Nicola is actually delivering Class 8 trucks now, so...

They were going to be classed as medium duty trucks so they were exempt from that.

Do you think it’s a good idea to start selling in CA without a plan for the rest of the country?

Do you think it’s a good idea for a company to go through the entire process of entering the US auto market just to sell cars in CA? Do you think it’s a good idea to start selling in CA without a plan for the rest of the country?

“It also wants to come to the U.S. at some point, but for now appears to be going to countries with the most EV demand, because Nio is also a business.”

Yeah we’ll get a rail system like China’s once the US Government says, “Oh your $5M property in Connecticut is in our way. Here’s $100K and a 2 bedroom apartment in the Bronx. Get out in 6 months or we’ll put you and your family in jail.”

This.

actually Saleen Automotive was a partnership with the city of Rugao. Tesla is different in that no partnership of any kind was required.

Settlements usually have a non-disclosure agreement added in. This was a judgement and not a settlement. The guy won in court. It’s public record and he can talk about it if he wants as long as he isn’t lying. Tesla’s just trying to outspend the guy in court to get him to shut up. It’s corporate bullying plain and…

“I can’t image Elon Musk doing something insanely stupid”

This isn’t even about their cars in this case...

Tesla owns their chinese division 100%, a first for a foreign company in the country. that being said it would not surprise me if that chinese branch did this without consulting the US branch beforehand and we see a response from Tesla US soon.

Counterpoint: they're all pedos

Ain’t defamation if it’s true.

Pretty sad day when the most valuable car company on the planet can't get away with fraud.

If that’s accurate, I’m 7 ft. 8.

No company has to go through L2 to get to L4 or L5. That’s not how this works.

Jason, I can see how you find this confusing, but you need to understand exactly how the unique Tesla system works. I’ll break it down for you.