It's her greatest role. She deserved it, but if I had to choose between she and Gloria Swanson, it would be a dreadful decision as I'd put both in the Top 10 of all time.

PS I think Crawford was most known for playing sirens and wanton women in her early career actually. I do think many people associated her with that type of role.

Well, Baby Jane came out in 1962 the year Woolf was written and the film version wasn't until 1967 so I'd say at the time, that line was all Bette Davis.

I protest that idea as well. It's galling, for sure. That said, we can agree to disagree about the male characters.

Yeah, I guess I'm adding that I'm not at all certain she can be sure either at this point which is part of why she's so freaked out. 6 years is a long time to just remember a scent.

Maybe I missed it, but I thought she made clear at the beginning that she'd moved there to get away from drama and give her son a better education.

I'm so sorry that you're going through this. You are not alone, and I hope you have the support you need.

Yes, this is classic gaslighting.

Thank you for putting it so well.

I really think it would be too over the top for it to be one of the husbands. It would probably ruin a lot of the good will I have towards this series if it goes that way. The logistics of Jane just happening upon the exact community and befriending the wife is just…ugh.

But two wrongs don't make a right, surely? They did it to us, so it's our turn now? I don't think this is trash at all, but that doesn't mean it couldn't use more nuance with the male characters.

Plus, he actually seems to, you know, love his wife, support her, back her up, think about her needs, be a great dad who cooks, and knows how his wife is feeling.

Sorry, probably already been mentioned, but I didn't think it was clear at all what happened when Jane met the interior designer. I am not sure if he even was the rapist and worse, I sensed her frustration was because she can't be sure either.

Yeah, that outfit was very very Bob Fosse-sque.

Ken Olin was an actor on thirtysomething, but not a creator. That'd be Ed Zwick and Marshall Herskovitz who also did the criminally underwatched Once and Again and are just about to take over Nashville.

Theatre and film has long been where the reality of many stars/directors/etc being LGBTQ was well-known and accepted even as it was hidden from the public.
1962 is a long way after when that was already the case.

Interesting when you think they were around the same age, had the same real first name, and both started out as showgirls in films.

Hmm, on a Hollywood set where it was likely known by all? Doesn't strike me as far-fetched, particularly for a stage actor.

Sadly, there's a movie being made right now with Margot Robbie as Tonya so I don't think that's likely.

All About Eve is a Bette Davis/Anne Baxter film. Or were you referring to something else?