“CT: Well, I was stolen from the motherland years ago when the white man came and enslaved us. I’ve been held in captivity since then, trying to set my people free.”

No different that all the crap that gets thrown onto the price of a car from the dealer. You never get out of there paying the same price as the website with all the doc/prep/destination/detail/undercoating/today is Thursday fees on top of your already negotiated “lowest” price.

Let’s be clear - Tesla changes their mind often and may or may not make smart business moves but not telling your rank and file they are getting laid off ahead of time or strategizing with them about the future of their particular stores / compensation plans / etc. IS NOT EVIDENCE of this.  That is normal business…

I bought my last two cars sight unseen without test drives (one new, one used). All I needed was the assurance that when I arrived to take delivery (traveled to different state), if I didn’t like the car, the deal was off with full refund.

Me, and all the Tesla owners I know love driving and go to the track often. Maybe your wrong.

It has that. If you don’t provide input to the steering wheel, it nags you with increasing urgency and audio and then puts on the hazards and brings the car to a safe stop.

You are getting all flipped out about the rare exception and ignoring the vast amounts of data that show it makes cars safer. Unlike you, I’ve driven a Tesla with AP and can confirm it reduces risk and fatigue and is safer than cars without it.

I got a call from Tesla that my X had reported an air leak in the front strut, they had the replacement part, and wanted to install it in the parking lot at work if I would bring my key out to them.  It was freaking awesome and everyone at my office was impressed.

This!  Everyone has been moaning about how you couldn’t buy the base model 3.  Virtually no one buys a base model car without a single option.  

I have an X with black interior and it’s not bad. The tesla has a cabin overheat feature that automatically cools it to keep it from exceeding 110 (I think). Also, I hit the button on my phone to turn on the A/C and cooled seats before I head out to the car so I don’t bake.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Anyone can slice and dice data any way you want. For me, the bottom line is I have a Tesla, I use AP, and *I* feel like it makes driving safer.

Cell connection is included with a Tesla.

People charge them at home.  That is always the missing part.  If you leave the house fully charge in the morning, you can absorb the 40% temp hit and the public charger contention much, much easier.  If you can’t charge at home, an EV is not for you yet.

Preconditioning means you program you car to know that you leave for work at 7AM each morning. At 6:30, it will turn on and heat up the batteries and warm the interior for you while it’s still plugged into the charger in the garage. That way, you don’t waste battery power warming things up when you first start driving.

It’s not bad. I had to replace mine out of warranty and it was about $1300. Tesla met me halfway for good will so it was $600.  The windshield on my BMW i3 was the same price.

What did they do to make it so inefficient?? My X has the same size 90KW battery, weighs ~1000 lbs more, goes 247 miles, seats two more people, and is only a hair slower at 4.7 sec 0-60. I checked one out at the Portland auto show last week. I dig the looks of it but it’s tiny. It’s really not an SUV at all and you…

Smog from a power plant is cleaner than smog from a ICE car.  That plant will run at the same level even if I don’t by an electric car.  It’s not like they crank it up a notch for every EV sold.

Sigh. How about a rule that before you comment on a story about Tesla auto pilot, you have to clearly state if you have ever used it before so we know whether or not to ignore you.

It can tell.  Just putting your hand at the bottom of the wheel doesn’t provide enough input and it will still turn off.  Resting my arm on the window and holding it is the same - it will turn off.  You have to have a hand hanging on one side or the other putting actual torque on the wheel for it to think your are…

Nope, doesn’t work at the bottom of the wheel. You have to have your hand (just one, not both) on the side of the wheel to provide enough torqe for it to know your there. Just resting your hand at the bottom or holding it at 10 & 2 won’t register and you still get nagged.