Gotta agree with you and the other Pro-Bolt comments on this topic. Personally, I do not necessarily see how much more practical the Model 3 is compared to the Bolt. Further, I do not necessarily trust Tesla to build a reliable vehicle under the time and financial pressures they currently face to live up to their…

“That is the angry middle class we have,” he said. “The guys who can’t come out of high school anymore and get a good job and have a cabin Up North. They have to have two jobs, their wife has to work; they have to borrow a bunch of money to send their kids to college.”

Seriously. I love the F-ing generalizations that these people make.

Great article. I’m bookmarking this post.

Excellent write-up, David! Top notch.

That’s not my argument. You’re being dishonest by completely ignoring life cycle costs of virtually everything else and treating EVs as some kind of singularly destructive thing as if you are actually concerned about the environment or the condition of foreign mining practices.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. How exactly do they figure this?

“Lithium is getting scarce.”

This really is not a fair point in any way. If we are going to hold mining of metals and minerals as a strike against EVs, then we not only need to hold that against conventional ICEs as well, but against anything that contains such metals, such as smartphones.

“How much you wanna bet I can drive ‘is here truck over them mountains? Yeahhh”

1st: “You are free to use any methods necessary, but I want them alive. Noooo distintegrations.”

Durham is fantastic place to live. That is all.

I think it’s more a case of:

I don’t get the hate for the Compass / Patriot. What’s the big deal? not everybody has $30- $40k+ to spend on an SUV/CUV.

Personally, I think my 25 mpg sedan is a gas guzzler compared to what is possible with hybrid and EV technology these days.

“B-b-b-but cheap gas is here to stay this time!”

Where are you getting this info from? Some Leafs have had battery degredation issues (but that isn’t consistent and is likely due to their using an air-cooled Li-on battery),yes, but Volts, Priuses, C-max and other EVs haven’t shown any such degredation that would lead to having a short life cycle as far as I know.

A fair point. I’m a fan of EV, but it I think it is *A* future, and a very viable one, but not necessarily THE end-all, be-all of automotive travel.

@ BigBlock40: Eventually, though it will run out. Maybe not next year, or the next 20 years even but it will run out because by it’s nature it is non-renewable. And there are long-term consequences for the use and abuse of fossil fuels. So, in postponing the adoption of cleaner, renewable power sources we are wasting…

“If after hundred years we haven’t been able to develop solar and wind alternatives why are you guys still bringing it up?” - Sorry, but this is a completely dishonest and inaccurate claim. Solar and Wind haven’t had anywhere near the investment and prioritization in the US that fossil fuel exploration has. Powerful…