Fundamentally, I have a problem with a such a valuable gift. Teenagers are going to have a hard time understanding the value of an $8,000 car, and if they receive one as a gift, they don’t learn how hard it is to actually work hard for something valuable. I get the generosity thing, but having seen so many people not…

Shine your lights on this article...

Hey Feds! You know what sucks worse than maps? Our headlights! Change your damn rules so we can have better headlights!

Screw you and your fancy $400 Peugeot! Me and the crappy, rusty, dented e21 I got for free (literally, the neighborhood cheered when I arrived to pick it up) are the best choice for the Spirt Class!

Wow. Lame.

The Supercharger near my house has 8 stalls, and except for the opening day, I’ve only ever seen 1 car there. Again, we’re pretty remote, its not a high demand area.

We drove our Tesla to Zion National Park a few years back and we came in via the east entry which has a long, twisty, slow descent into the valley floor.

I live in a fairly remote place. There is finally a Supercharger in my town (at a grocery store), but I’ve only used it 3 times since it was installed last July (once at the opening party, and the other two times were actually coming home from long distance trips and we wanted to get groceries). All the other…

I’ve used a supercharger on my return drive home from a long trip. I gotta charge to get home, and I’m returning to a house with no groceries. And its happened that I got a notification on my phone that the car was done charging, right as I got in line to check out. 15 minutes later, I was at my car loading up my…

I’ve got a 2013 P85 on 21" Continentals for summer, 19" Dunlop snows for winter. I’ll easily see sub 280 when the weather’s perfect, the road is flat or downhill, the car has just me in it and I’m driving like a grandma. But that’s not normal driving.

Ok, color me skeptical.

In Neil Patel’s Russia, you don’t own your things, efficiency owns you.

Generally, I agree with Jay on the sentiment to never carry debt, for the exact same reason: at the end of the day, I know what I own.

There’s being skeptical of whether a company will succeed or not, and there’s belief that a company is nothing more than a scam. I agree with Jalopnik’s skepticism about FF. I’m also very skeptical FF will succeed, but not because I think its a get-rich-scheme. I don’t agree when you say FF is just a scam.

Yeah, exactly. Probably way easier to come up with something like that rather than try to “scam” people with a “fake” car company...

I bought a Model S P85 for its performance over a Nissan Leaf or VW e-Golf.

The GM EV1 prototypes had NiMH batteries which gave them about 140 mile range, but they were released with Lead-acid instead, and not given the NiMH until the 2nd gen production run in 1999.

There are way easier ways to get rich quick than trying to start a car company. Anyone claiming that FF, or Fisker or Tesla or Nicola or Aptera or Elio or any of the other recent automotive start-ups are just get rich quick schemes has no freeking clue about how hard it is to even build a working prototype or even how…

Agreed. Every single vehicle I’ve owned with sealed beam headlights got upgraded to Euro Cibies or Hella units. We had a VW Jetta Sportwagen and I was looking to buy the Euro units for that car too, but we ended up selling it.

When the going gets tough, make cool 3D models...