I agree the Crosstour was pretty ugly for its time, but Honda also made the Acura ZDX at approximately the same time. While they’re surprising *not* the same platform, the ZDX is way uglier:

Yes indeed. See my reply above. I would love to take credit for that but i did NOT advertise that number! here is the dyno graph from an RS, our two builds and another pair of displacement bumped cars.

I’m 6'6" and 230lbs, and I found the 86 perfectly comfortable for all-day driving.

100% clean sheet design for the 2.3L, even down to the bore and stroke.

Dude I know.  I worked at a dealer so I always had the lisle tool with the reverse threads handy just in case.  From what I remember if you drove it around to get it hot first and sprayed some pb blaster it would usually break free.  Some guys swore by using 3/8" impacts to break them loose but I was too scared to try.

Heard. I think some designs are far better than others - I don’t think this is the best looking car, but I appreciate how bold and unique it is, and I like how sharply it contrasts with the blocky Ioniq 5. I think there’s time to refine this language into something more attractive, but it’s already on the right track.

I have an Ioniq 5, and with that and the Ioniq 6, I can’t get over how the cars looks so completely different in style depending on the angle you’re looking at it from. From the side and back, both cars look fantastic. But at that three-quarters view like in the header pic, and from head-on, it just looks weird and…

Real ugly.

CP

Yeah I don’t understand the leap to even close to perfect. The looks are so bad that I couldn’t get past that. 

Totally agree. However, today’s average person is an entitled, self-aggrandizing, social media PITA. They don’t care about other people, or communal safety. Maybe the weigh-in will actually keep them out of the sky, so we’ll have less zip-tying of egregious passengers to seats this way.  That would be nice. 

They do, I think it’s 25lbs but it is not enforced. Same way that carry-on size is not enforced unless is egregiously oversized.

They do. They also have a size limit. Yet, get on literally any flight, and you’ll 100% see more than one person trying to cram a bag way bigger than the handy size gauge (which they walked right past) into the overhead bin. And nobody trying to stop them. 

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Was going to post this; this has to be the absolute winner.

Ford Fairmonts

Mercedes R 63 AMG. Costco and soccer practice runs? Check. Taking a nap sprawled out in the back seat? Check. Flying under the radar of the law? Check. 0-60 in 4.2 seconds? Also check.

“if he would have crashed someone else in this process”

I mean there has to be a limit to the potential use for this “strategy” right. Riding a wall at 100-something mph, it probably doesn’t take too long to damage the tire, suspension, steering.

I agree but I also think so many racing moves can be looked at in a similar light, both successful and unsuccessful moves. Oftentimes things are done on a blurred line and the outcome is what dictates how we remember it