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You mean people still listen to Manson after high school? The edgy/goth/angsty/melodramatic/performative self-abuse stage of one’s life shouldn’t really go past the age of 18 or 19, at most.

Abusers like him know how to get away with abuse for years by picking the “right” victims, and charming everyone else around them so that they ignore the obvious red flags. I still remember an old, old, interview on MTV that Sharon Osbrourne did, calling him the nicest man she ever worked with during all the years she

He’s so proud of the cutting and calling.  Hopefully that counts as evidence against him.  

Its horrific, but I can’t say I’m surprised. Didn't warm to him from the start, just thought there was something about him. I hope she, and the other women, can get help. 

I’ve seen it hypothesized before and it seems to fit here, that older men date much younger women because older women have seen through and are tired of their bullshit.

I have a lot of friends who finally are like FUCK HIM and just stopped listening to his music. He’s a piece of shit and has been for a long time.

Well, at least he gave us bland and mediocre rip-off industrial music to not listen to.

I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that I used marilyn manson music to settle myself during heartbreak, or going like 20 years not realizing he was an abusive bag of shit from his lyrics.

Yeah, when she mentioned an abusive relationship a few years back, I think a lot of us figured it was Manson due to both the timeline and the age difference. Dita Von Teese divorced him and it was heavily implied she did so because he pursued Evan Rachel Wood while they were married, when Wood was 18.

That’s the best part! You don’t have to!

What if we don’t want to think about it? At all? Ever?

Kourtney and Travis are actually perfect for each other if you think about it.  

False arguments are fine at trial else lawyers would have no jobs, but it’s illegal to present false evidence or to lie to the jury. Hence we get things like the Chewbacca Defense which is completely legal but ethically indefensible. A good judge would nip it in the bud, but this isn’t going to be a regular trial and

b/c who wants a white supremacist moving in to their neighborhood?

Isn’t the article primarily condemning them for going on holiday to a tropical island? Also a bit silly, but there you go.

I did not know that a light up water bottle is a real thing. And I sympathize on the kidney stone. I had one twenty five years ago and I never want to have another. I’ve had two children, and I would argue the pain of the kidney stone was worse. 

Would people on the left really be outraged if the Pences bought a house? 

Hey, some of us actually have trouble remembering to drink enough water. And I need to drink more water than average because of kidney issues. So my wife got me a Hidrate and it blinks at me every so often. It’s helped a lot, especially since I’m prone to kidney stones, and I will gladly accept the mockery of random

Inquiring minds need to know, did they have their “towel charms” with them?

“Chicago West” sounds like the shitty meeting room they always assign to me for conference presentations.