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Thawne returns from the dead all the time in the comics with little to no explanation and the explanations we get don’t make sense. It’s sorta his thing.

Very true about Thawne potentially both actually liking and caring for Nora, but still using her. Thawne pretty much did just that with Cisco and Caitlin in season one. When he killed Cisco in the alternate timeline he admitted he cared Cisco and kind of considered him like a son, but he still cared about himself and

Barry and Iris both explicitly promising they would never make Nora leave them again, which is sort of an odd thing to promise your daughter who is visiting from the future, does suggest that she will stay around. Which I guess could work either as her being a time remnant if the future gets changed, or if they decide

I actually felt like, as usual, Barry is right while doing everything wrong.

The speed force is basically a time rift created when Barry got hit by lightning. It began at the moment the lightning struck him and simultaneously at the time of his death when he ran fast enough to create a speed vortex and destroy the Anti-Monitor’s anti-matter cannon to save the world. It resulted in him becoming

How is 2019 Nora’s “own time”?  That makes no sense. Her own time (that she traveled from the future to) is one where she is the same age as her parents?

The conflict between Iris and Barry was some of the best, most complex inter-personal drama this show has ever managed. Really great stuff.

Oh Barry...

Barry vs Nora origin sequence symmetries:

I really dug this episode. It makes me wish we had gotten more time with the Lia & Nora friendship, they were really fun together! This episode did a great job of rounding out Nora’s character a bit more I thought.

I mean....to be fair, should Nora really be staying in the past anyway?  And yeah, it was a bit not great of Barry to send her off without letting her say goodbye, but...he’s never been that unbiased when it comes to Thawne and his mom. 

That never fails to impress me. I totally buy that she’s emotionally younger than both of them.

There weren’t just parallels to Thawne training Barry in season one, that was word for word what he told Barry to get him to phase the first time.

It’s also possible that Cavanagh just asked to play the character again. Apparently the entire Sherloque character was his idea, so they seem to give him a lot of latitude.  And Thawne is the character he originally signed on to play, after all.

I thought director Danielle Panabaker got an excellent performance out of Jessica Parker Kennedy as Nora in this episode, she really carried the story and made it work. I continue to be impressed by her chemistry as the daughter of Grant Gustin and Candice Patton, and how convincing she is as a somewhat immature

That part makes sense to me, but not sure what the explanation for him looking like Wells again is other than, “Matt Letscher was too expensive/unavailable.”

I rather enjoyed this episode. It was great getting all the backstory and context for Nora, which made her relationship with Thawne perfectly understandable. It also shed some new light on the conflict between Nora and Iris over the suppression of her powers - and what I like most about it is that I can genuinely see

It didn’t occur to me until this moment, but Iris probably owns the Flash Museum. It was built in Star Labs, which Barry owns.

“(I’m still not entirely clear on how Thawne is alive in this particular form and situation, but Barry doesn’t ask.)“

I did laugh my butt off at the line from the museum announcer saying