Good luck with those shreddit api calls :D

Happy to see the response from the community on Reddit. Steve Huffman could have handled this in a million better ways than the ones he chose. It’s really pointing out poor leadership and management from the top down over at Reddit.

Fair API charges should be applied. That’s fine, but give those who are volunteering…

Reddit relies on users to create content and mods to keep the content within community guidelines. Reddit is generating money from this volunteer effort.

Ah yes, let’s side with Jeff Bezos, Amazon and the corporate fascists, because some people dared to challenge the Powers That Be.

What do you mean by “their” data? It isn’t their data. It’s the users data. Reddit doesn’t actually create any content and is entirely dependent on the goodwill of its users to function. 

I mean, have you opened up a Gizmodo or AV Club article from 2012? None of those classic commenters are here anymore and a lowly article back then got 5x the number of total comments as in 2023.

This would only be true if Reddit were asking for a fee within the realm of possibility. The $12,000 for 50 million API calls is over 70x what similar platforms charge. It’s like posting a 2013 Honda Accord on Autotrader for over 1 million dollars.

Reddit is trying to charge an amount that is over 70 times the industry standard cost of API calls. It’s clearly an astronomically unreasonable amount that is the problem.

This wasn’t about letting 3rd party devs “do whatever they want.” Christian Selig, the dev who created Apollo, admitted that paying for API was something that he knew would eventually have to happen. It was Reddit’s outrageous pricing and accelerated implementation of the charges that wouldn’t allow him to adjust…

This is what I am wondering. You can’t just make up a voice with AI without training it first. And having it trained enough to actually fool someone would require a lot of their voice being recorded. 

How did they get access to enough of her daughter’s voice to do a deepfake?

That’s too limited of a view. Flip the script for a moment, let’s say the Company ‘Users’ is selling Attention and Personal Data. Part of what they’re charging is free access to the API. Reddit has decided not to pay that bill, so ‘Users’ has stopped providing the service.

They have every right in the same way that their users, who are the sole content providers and moderators of the site, have every right to walk away over poor management.

It’s nothing to do with ads. It has to do with API cost. Apps are happy paying for fair access but Reddit wants to charge astronomical amounts instead. They want to turn a huge profit off peoples apps OR force them to close and funnel everyone through their gateways.

If you don’t think his rhetoric is an existential threat to the future of democracy, I suggest you review the history of provocateurs like him in this country.

Trying to decide which is the greater societal good, shutting Carlson up for a year and a half, or having him accidentally carve out a win for the working class by weakening non-compete clauses.

this is reddit, not 4chan

Yet another site succumbing to the enshittification of the internet.

That’s exactly the point. The app devs said they’re happy to pay for API access at—this is the important part—a reasonable price. But reddit has zero interest in offering that. This is not about reddit trying to save costs, this is entirely about them trying to price 3rd party apps out of business ahead of their IPO.

I still say if you really want to make a statement, delete your account instead. You know, actually stop using the service instead of just disallowing the public from using your subreddit 🙄