Well, he plays the lovable dumb guy character, and I have a hard time finding that hot.

Absolutely, me too. If you step back and look at it objectively, Nani really is in over her head trying to raise Lilo. He's not a bad guy, even if what he wants is against what our protagonists want.

Something about a misplaced sense of entitlement and the awareness that it's vanishing does strange and dark things to the young, white male brain.

Hey, don't you think you're playing into the same stereotypes that I'm talking about?

Is it seriously worse than the other shit you find on the internet? I'll grant you that bronies could be that awful, but I feel like any predominantly male and white group on the internet is going to be awful.

there's also an element of sexism to Bronies' protestation that it's NOT a show meant for little girls, it's SO MUCH COOLER THAN THAT. "

Plenty of kids shows are pretty good, and from what I've heard MLP is one of those. Either way though, I've always thought the scorn that bronies receive is way out of proportion to the actual strangeness of what they do. (Unless you're really uncomfortable with cross-gender fandoms and look down on female-directed…

Sure, I find it a little weird too. But I think the derision they get is way out of proportion compared to similar fandoms that are more gender appropriate.

Ok, well at least man it up, in a way that shows it's about guys and not about girls.

Great, great point. I think it also relates to the suspicion we have when men want to go into childcare, elementary school teaching or even fucking hang around a playground. Guys are perpetual horndogs, everything they do revolves around sex, therefore the only reason they could have to be into a girl's show is sex.

Sounds like you have experience with bronies? I really don't think that sounds any more heinous than rabid gamers or any other group. I figure they're just like your typical nerd group on the internet (reddity, mostly white and male and therefore racist and sexist), only they happen to be into something that's even…

I always figured they had to be hyper-masculine about their name as an attempt to push back against the perceived girliness of their interests. Like how men don't carry purses, they carry murses. Or action figures vs. dolls

There's an element of sexism to all the derision for Bronies. Not only are they fans of a kid's show, they're fans of a kid's show meant for girls. Fans of, I dunno, Adventure Time or ThunderCats don't get nearly as much scorn. Can't help but think it's because they're lowering themselves to like something feminine.

Ha, I'm really glad that someone took the time to film that and put it on youtube. Some guys seem to like it though, at least in my experience.

I'm a dirty talk fan, so I like making asking for consent all nasty, but yeah that works too. I usually ask "is it okay?" before venturing into new territory. It doesn't kill the mood at all, and hearing the guy say "oh god yes" or something similar is pretty hot. Most importantly, every now and then I get a "I'm…

I think you're imagining consent to be something like "Do you wish to engage in sexual relations, confirm or deny?"

Passive-aggressive? Sounds more like polite modesty to me.

Deadspin is a million times better on gender-related articles than Kotaku is.

Good. Unregulated discourse just leads to the nastiest, loudest, most obnoxious voices dominating while the more reasoned commenters stay away.

The male gaze is so obvious here — revealing clothing on women is a-ok, but equally revealing clothing on men is gross and weird.