The quality of discussion is hurt when you assume that someone disagrees with you because of their loyalty to another character they've said nothing about. You changed the subject from Fitz' abuse to Jake's abuse, seemingly under the impression that I was OK with the latter. Dodging the point and deflecting absolutely…

It was snobby, sorry for that, but my problem was that you lumped me in with Mellie fans on Twitter as if I was there.

Kendall, do you believe that saying "no, don't touch me" while crying is a sign of consent?

It's adorable that you think because I'm criticizing Fitz' abuse of Olivia, I must be OK with Jake, my LEAST favorite character. Get out of the shipper mindset. Address the actual arguments made and don't make assumptions.

Man, you're snippy.

"Whenever Fitz has tried to reach Olivia, he does indeed invade her space because a lot of the time, that's how they communicate, that's how he gets Olivia to listen to him."

Good lord, were my comments linked to on Twitter or something? It's like a hundred Olitz shippers cried out at once.

Your comparison to spanking is ludicrous.

Yes, that was sexual harassment.

Nice defense of the indefensible.

Can you fathom the idea of two different people being terrible to each other?

Do you think there's something problematic about "no means yes?"

Yes, Jake is abusive too. I think I've made it clear I find him as terrible as Fitz, if not worse. I'm not interested in whatever shipper war you're a part of.

"Look, I respect Olivia; I respect Olivia a whole lot and feel that if Olivia was in an abusive relationship, she would get out of it. I don't think Olivia would let a man abuse her."

"Do you consider it creepy when a woman, a very beautiful woman, uses her sexual power over men? Olivia does this to Jake all the time."

While I certainly agree that wealthy and privileged women have more resources than poor women when it comes to escaping an abusive relationship, you seem to be suggesting that rich women can't possibly be victims of abuse, or if they are, they're bringing it on themselves—and I just can't agree with that.

You say you've known women in abusive relationships, but before that, you ask why an abuse victim wouldn't just leave the relationship?

I'll take your word that I'm mixing up the start of their relationship—it's been ages since I've rewatched Season 2.

Again, the fact that Olivia finds Fitz's complete disrespect of her boundaries and consent a big turn-on is hardly a defense of Fitz's actions. More importantly—given that Fitz is a fictional character—it is no defense of the writers' constant romanticizing and eroticizing of abusive behavior. I respect Shonda Rhimes'…

"Unfortunately, many posters and fans no longer like Olivia Pope - and its not because of the affair. During Season 1, Olivia Pope was an icon - people accepted her as this brilliant individual with a messed up love life (the affair). Now people are even questioning her intellect."