Agree. With the fact that charging takes longer than gassing up, these companies have actually made the experience of paying for something harder.

Well now you can charge you non-Tesla at Tesla stations with the Magic-Dock (that is what it is called).

I was gonna say... Even Harley’s are all CAN bus now...

Looking forward to Musk’s master-planned community in Florida next door to Celebration.

Understood, but when the avg price of a new car is higher than the price of Std Range Model 3, it might be time to reevaluate the methodology.

Model 2: I am not sure how much they could take out of the Model 3 Std Range. The Model 3 is NOT a luxury car, despite the automotive press perpetuating this myth.

Yup. As a test engineer, I can think of so many ways via data acquisition to predict these failures. They all cost money though.

With you.

10 miles between the first two HBDs and 20 between #2 and #3 with a 150F temp rise on that stretch.

Solution: All new heads of state must be fighter qualified. Stick them in a F35 for the trip.

Yup. To build and sell a motor vehicle in the States, you run the tests (or not in some cases), and then just tell NHTSA and EPA that you did and that you passed. They may chose to audit as some future date. If you lied, you’re looking at fines and recalls.

Curious about folks that bought “FSD” on their cars and are now being told “well it’s not really FSD.” Will those folks be compensated?

I own a Model 3.  Calling it a luxury car is a stretch.

Time to nationalize yet?

With you here. I had a 1976 Fleetwood. 500ci (8.2L!) with a transmission that shifted imperceptibly. It basically felt like an EV already. I had toyed with the idea of doing some sort of EV conversion but had too many irons in the fire to tackle it. Sold it and bought an EV.  Really wish my Model 3's drive unit and…

I feel like the last bastion of actual engineering in automotive now is on the test/analysis side of the business.

Waiting for a Lockheed-Martin team...

If you’re ever out Las Vegas way, check out Red Rock Harley. The owner is a moto racing fan (all makes) and has all these cool historic race bikes just sprinkled around the showroom.

Or: the same kid can have wildly differing behaviors on two different flights.

What you describe is not uncommon. I’ve been in companies where a new CEO starts and their first action is to cut the workforce. Basically a free hit for the stock price. Then, over the next 3 years or so, the staffing level returns to where it was.