I think that because a bunch of the other comments on this are people talking about how this is apparently somehow supposed to ease meat eaters into a vegetarian diet. A number of comments said that independently of each other. That sounds like a product for people who like meat, not people who don't.

I can see the intent, though I think that it's a bit misguided (an expensive veggie burger available in a few cities is unlikely to win over many people who weren't already eating them). My issue is that it acts like vegetarian food doesn't taste good unless it's like meat. That's not going to get people to eat more…

OK, two points.

Depends. I'm Canadian and I have a pretty easy time with the diet. I gather that it's damn near impossible in Japan, very easy in India, probably tricky in Eastern Europe, etc. It's a topic with a lot of cultural variation from place to place.

I have no problem with it being an option. It's the insistence that it's better. I'm not objecting to its existence, just its marketing here. If that's what it's for, then call it like it is.

There are too many bacon dishes today. Please eliminate three. P.S. I am not a crackpot.

Exactly. A veggie burger is fine, but it's a compromise. It lets the restaurant carry something without having to change anything but their stock of patties. It's not like real vegetarian cooking.

Could we be so out of touch? No, no. It's the children who are wrong.

Well, I can only speak for myself. I'm sure there's a market for this and you're attesting to it. I only object to the idea that it's somehow better than what we've been eating up to this point because they hit on the idea of pumping it full of yeast, you know? That does not sound like an improvement to me.

Nothing about its availability bothers me at all. It's the attitude that the "secret to [a] great veggie burger", as the headline terms it, is an improvement that's solely devoted to simulating meat. It's condescending because it presumes that the real issue with vegetarian food is that it isn't meaty enough. In…

Exactly. I think there's a misconception out there that vegetarians miss meat and crave ever-closer substitutes. That's why this seems so misaimed to me.

If that's a fundamental problem, why haven't I heard other vegetarians asking for better veggie burgers? Why do I not crave meat, along with a number of other people that I know? Not everybody wants the taste and feel of meat. After time passes, it stops being appealing to some people, and I can attest to that. …

Jesus Christ, carnivores. Has it occurred to you that vegetarian burgers might have a different appeal for their intended audience? That sounds like an awful veggie burger. Good veggie burgers lean into their status and provide one with a flavour and texture based on actual vegetables/fungi, like portobello…

Menzel and Chenowith would be appropriate if it were an animated version, which is what I would want and what will not happen. Wicked is one musical that could do well in that format.

I don't know his former band, but if they sounded anything like his solo stuff, it wouldn't be at all out of the question for them to end up on the same bill as the Sadies at some point. I think we have an OK contender here.

Good thinking, though. Did Sam Roberts have a band first?

Matt Good's solo now, yeah. Playing in my city soon, even.

Has anyone tapped them to do a film score yet? It seems like the most obvious idea in the world.

Maybe five people on the AVC are going to start puzzling out who this solo career belongs to now and I'm one of them.

Moreso, I'd say. Dummies hit that uncanny spot hard unless they're some charming motherfucking dummies, to coin a phrase. (For some reason, though, all the automated stuff in Sleuth is just cute to me.)