On this specific site, if Bieber was a girl celeb who engendered any level of respect around here, there would be nuclear bomb levels of outrage all over these posts. Your level of victim-blaming here is a mild version of rape apology. I don't care if you dislike him or not (and trust me, I hate his guts), if you…

No, not really. Jez doesn't choose to show a lot of distasteful videos. They made a choice to post this.

That's a pathetic rationalization.

Yes? I mean, policework depends a lot on reports and such written by the officers who take evidence, etc, so a lot of what other people on the force will see is the evidence filtered through the reporting officer's perspective. So, a combination of someone not caring, someone else not getting it, and their superiors…

And yet they could do that without posting the video itself.

Hmm. Since my response was conveniently deleted, I'll repost.

I'd like you to go back, re-read my post, and point out where I "minimize" anything, or "sympathize" with Bieber.

"this is creepy and invasive as fuck." so let's publish it on our website! (?)

Also — this is fucking creepy and invasive as fuck.

If this was some female celeb of Bieber's age there is no way this story would be presented with such an innocuous sounding tagline.

What the heck, that is so violating and wrong. I'm disappointed in Jezebel that the video was re-posted here. This creepy invasion of privacy is awful in the first place, it doesn't need to be spread around.

Well, wouldn't be the first time.

I should say that the headline also betray's the author's ignorance. Robertson isn't suing.

'“They have to be in an exposed state to violate the current law and these women were not,'

Reading the story on the Tribune site, it seems like the guy was standing up taking pictures of women seated in skirts. Not using his phone to take upskirt pictures that weren't visible otherwise.

Now up, any female lawyer who defends a sleezebag is betraying all women, even if the argument is the correct one to make (it's his only defense, and it's borderline, but a lawyer's job is to make it regardless). Eventually we may get past this whole "every attorney is exactly the same level of terribleness as the…

You're correct. He wasn't "suing" for anything, he was arguing some sort of interlocutory appeal in a criminal proceeding. Totally. Different. Things.

It doesn't matter if the person is mentally ill or not, what matters is that there needs to be some corroboration that a crime actually occurred. If I went to the police (at least here in America) and told them that I had killed someone but did not tell them who or where they might find a body, what do you suppose the…

On the contrary, police have repeatedly expressed frustration that they have been unable to press charges against the boys. I believe it's a law issue. Without a complainant and a formal statement, charges cannot be laid.

Not sure about NZ but in most places you need to have a victim come forward to prosecute a crime.