You know, George bought Jon Voight’s LeBaron

I saw a series in the wild in the early 2000s, thought it was so cool... I really don’t remember the interior being so terrible. I mean, that looks horrible, 35k extra for 130 hp, how much more for a halfway decent place to actually experience the drive.

well, flat refers to the paint, glossy refers to the finish, so yes?

To be honest, I hate this trend of flat glossy colors. They all look terrible and would look 100 times better with even a small amount of metallic.

So true, KIA is the budget brand, then you have Hyundai in the middle, then you have the KIA Stinger as a luxuryish performance sedan, then you have Genesis (the Hyundai luxury brand). It all doesn’t really make sense.

Maserati is a good one. I haven’t been excited about a Maserati in a really long time. I feel like they don’t have much to offer, and what the do have is pretty lacking compared to their rivals.

I’m going to say any company that really only makes CUVs. Kill them off as a warn to others that this CUV crap will no longer be tolerated.

I was actually thinking Subaru. They have had some really nice/exciting concepts in recent years, then release a very bland-blind-in-with-everything-else-from-10-years-ago version that just sucks.

I’m pretty sure M is just the performance indication for BMW, not a tuner brand.

Pretty sure that’s what he was saying, Wranglers are only good off road and crap on regular roads, which is what 99% of them are always used for.

You know, I’ve been watching that “Payne Automotive” tv show and it got me thinking, if someone could actually make a bare bones $10,000 car, it would sale like crazy. That’s what I would look forward if it happened, I don’t care what it looks like, if they pulled it off and it got over 20mpg, I would buy it.

Man, I haven’t paid much attention lately, is the Flying Car coming next year? Cause that’s my vote.

Well, we are talking current Dodge here, so yeah, probably look good, but weight more than a blue whale, handle about the same, all while threatening to break down at any moment. But you’ll look cool while waiting for a tow on the side of the road... maybe that should be their new slogan.

The comment about the F40 got me thinking.

I agree with you on the FRS/BRZ, the first gen was also better looking and only got uglier with each update/refresh. The performance my have taken a baby step forward, but the appearance took a step backwards.

Steve McQueen and the Bullitt

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Well, nobody has gotten any more off-road than the moon, at least as far as manned ground vehicles. 

Yeah, that’s where I’m at with this. I liked the sound of it at first and honestly would love to do a project like this, but reading the issues/setup, it’s not worth 13k. I would consider it for less and do exactly what you said, dump the sbc and drop in an LS and better transmission. I would love this car as my hot…

The Pontiac GTO. The mid 60s GTO is iconic and then they made another great with the Judge, but by the time they brought back the GTO nameplate, they didn’t even both to make a car, they just slapped some body panels and badges on a Holden.