sirwarrenoates
Sir Warren Oates
sirwarrenoates

I was recently debating this with some folks on FB who were extolling the virtues of TV back then. I mean, sure there’s some good nostalgia and a few gems obviously but the sheer amount of terrible is far larger. TV definitely became much better starting in the late 90's/early 00's. 

I love 70's era TV movies, although usually for the wrong reasons IE stuff like The Terror at 37 thousand feet and Devil Dog: the hound from Hell.

Absolutely. To this day I still hold my Mother responsible for having me watch “The Mouse and His Child” at age five. Kid’s film my ass...

I actually saw it on a re-release in 77 at the drive in in the summer. As noted above ruined me wanting to go to the beach for a LONG time.

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Jaws terrified me as a kid. I remember seeing it at the drive in on a re-issue and as someone who lived on Long Island near Amityville, that was it for beaches for me.

UGH. Just think how much better that film would have been.

Only his sick abdominal core. I mean, Brad Pitt was always in ridiculously good shape but damn his abs had abs back then. But at that point I was way more into drinking and partying and playing loud shitty rock n roll so no way was I going to get that build. 

This must be the bizarro universe because I find myself agreeing with you...

I like that explanation, although I’m telling you man after re-watching it she’s staring at him with this look of...regret? It’s odd. But I like your premise better. 

I beg to disagree on the Tarantino direction, but I wholeheartedly endorse tossing Haynes out.

Well between your Presidency and my recent knight hood, I feel like I have the duly authorized power to proceed...

She addresses him first, and maybe it’s the way she’s framed but she seems to be smiling at him. And she seems hesitant to let him go as well. She almost seems to want to say “I’m sorry” or something: she goes “I’m...how much was it?” and then stares at him as he leaves.

Same here, but then she’s such a “Cybil Shepard” character (in the 70's) that I almost could see her being into him now that he’s a hero. Probably because I watched “The Last Picture Show”.

I’m reading a review of it and holy shit are you dead on. This looks pretty fucking offensive and I say this as someone who’s watched “Goodbye Uncle Tom” (The US version being somehow worse than the Italian one)

Fully agree. The reason Ed Wood movies are so great is (as you noted) this mutant believed in his own greatness for making films and was willing to put his heart and soul into it. A great ‘bad’ movie has to be organic and the same for a cult film. Making something to be deliberately odd or by committee always fails.

Agreed. I liked it for what it’s worth, but I also don’t think it’s the Citizen Kane of this century where film making is going to be dramatically changed forever.

It reminded me a lot of the film “Super” by James Gunn for a lot of reason. I’m an outspoken critic of the wave of spandex movies, but I’m with you in that if there going to be the Biblical films of this generation, it’d be nice to at least get some new ideas out of them. 

Wow. So this generations “Soul Man” and even more offensive, if possible?

I’m with @paulkinsey down below in that I don’t think it belongs on the list, but other than the lead performance I thought it was just okay. But I’m an old white guy in my mid 40's vs a young white guy in my mid 20's, so that might have something to do with it. 

Are you in the group that posits that Bickle dies at the end and the ‘hero’ part (the clippings and of course Cybil Sheppard) are his last thoughts?