I agree.

Ford’s biggest problem with the TCW, IMO, is pricing. They’ve got it priced high and people don’t even look at it as a result. But the discounts are often steep, making it a bargain.

For example, if I look at an Odyssey LX over at truecar vs a TCW, the MSRPs imply a price difference of on the order of $2,000.…

This isn’t correct. Ford got the loan after they were profitable again, and they’ve been repaying it on schedule, with interest.

You’re a little misled here.

Ford took a loan through the DOE’s advanced vehicle program (it isn’t a “guise” - they had to prove those funds were used for efficiency purposes, just like Tesla and Nissan did) .Those funds weren’t even disbursed until after Ford had returned to profitability ($879 million quarterly…

Bridges don’t always win...

The solution then is to put speed humps on the road and then one of these bars just in front of the bridge - slow traffic down so that they have time to stop if they hit the bar.

Second this...

I pass through this all the time - sharp turn right on the other side of the underpass.... There are signs for a mile to the west and better part of half a mile to the east saying no trucks allowed. Flashing lights, multiple signs, etc.

At least once a month some fool tries to go through in a semi or…

Note to your point: Always check prepayment penalties.

Because imagine if you could afford $750 a month, and the car was $20k with private financing at 2.9% for 36 months or 19.1k with dealer financing at 5.9% for 36 months. Payments through the dealer would be $580.19 vs $580.74 for private financing. Total savings…

P-51?  Never used by the Navy - that would be sacrilege...  

Is there any other option, really?

Do they actually care with the TC Wagon, though?

They’re selling the commercial ones just fine - and they may be pulling a Mazda5 with the TC Wagon - don’t advertise it, but you have it available anyway, so just import it and soak up a little spare capacity - take the sales you can at the profit you can and run with…

Explain what bailout you think they took....

I agree that the Focus, Fiesta, and Taurus are well past their prime. The Fusion, though, would have just been scheduled for an update this year, and is still a competitive vehicle. With the 2019s getting a plethora of new features, it still competitive, though the styling could use a redo.

I would have preferred them…

Did we really need more evidence that Ecclestone was a real POS?

Don’t you mean...

What, we’re going to completely ignore Elon Musk tripling down, now calling the British diver a “child rapist” and claiming he took a 12 year old bride, while offering no proof?  

Win by what definition? The Camry can’t hold a candle to the Fusion for handling and dynamics. And the Fusion matches the Camry on reliability according to most every owner survey.

And?  The fact that Ford didn’t see the market as worth reentering before doesn’t mean that they’re dragging their feet now.

Yeah - its clear they’re aiming for higher margin only at this point.  It’s a hell of a gamble, IMO.  I mean, if you had a Civic and you were happy with it, and then decided to go for a compact CUV, the Escape would likely have to present itself as a heck of a lot better than a CR-V to get you to switch.  

Europe is getting the facelift the US got last year.  It’s incredibly minor, and if it lifts sales at all, European buyers are incredibly shallow.

Umm, the new Ranger was introduced in January at the Detroit Auto show, and they closed down Michigan Assembly in May to start retooling for it. That was before all these product changes were announced. At the time, they said they would start producing the Ranger in late October, and it seems they’re still on track…