People keep forgetting this point. Hell, my parents drive an ‘18 Escape that gets better mileage than my ‘06 Fusion. And that’s before we even talk about the whole hybrid bit.

If a $200/yr difference in fuel price isn’t enough to scare people from a $25k CUV into a $21k sedan, then a $400/yr difference in fuel price…

I can guarantee my Fusion is a better vehicle than the Camry it replaced.  Might I like an Accord if I had one?  Sure... but that doesn’t mean the Fusion is a “shitty sedan”.  In fact, its one of the most reliable out there, AND it has decent handling.

Something is seriously wrong with the data you’re presenting.  What’s your source?

You do realize that the Mondeo/Fusion design was done by Ford of Europe, right?  It’s a european car that happened to be sold in the US first simply because Ford closed the plant in Belgium they had been building them in, and it took time to retool Valencia.

Ummm, Ford isn’t “hemorrhaging money”. They had net income last quarter of $1.1 billion. They have $9 billion more in cash on hand than they have in debt.

They have problems primarily in China and South America, and to a much lesser extent, Europe, but this is not a company in need of a buyout by any shape of the…

Ford has repeatedly been able to turn the European ship around just like PSA did at Opel.  The challenge is to keep the ship pointed in the right direction.  Their losses last quarter in Europe were relatively small, and that’s coming off of several years of profits.  GM was never in anywhere nearly as good of shape. 

When I worked at Ford for several years, there was no such policy. I drove a Toyota in all the time without any grief at all.

I know some people point to the lot at the Ford plant near where I live now and say that’s proof that employees don’t believe in the vehicles. But here’s what they miss: Employees at that…

Ford’s owners are pretty loyal.  And there is quite literally nothing the Taurus offers that the Fusion isn’t as good or better at.  They’re splitting their market for no good reason.

1st: What does the orangutan-in-chief want? The US to be able to force consumers in Europe to buy our products?

NPR report this morning suggested he wants their gas taxes slashed. Sorry, but we have no $#@ right to tell them to do that. The US simply has no right to tell another country how to tax their economy, or…

Ford is one of the leading sellers of electrified vehicles, though, despite the perception. What they lack is a pure EV or a dedicated model available only as a plugin, like a Volt. Their announced product plan also called for EV and hybrid versions of nearly every model.

You do realize there was the story recently that after an uproar from dealers over the proposed killing of the Fusion, it was reported that they would be keeping the Fusion name and attaching it to a direct competitor for the Subaru Outback, right?

So here’s the good I see in this change -

IF you kill the Taurus and Focus sooner rather than later, you might see Fusion sales pick up enough to justify continuing that model.

Fleet isn’t the problem you’re making it out to be when it comes to the F-series.  These aren’t rental sales that slaughter resale values and then bring down the retail prices on new ones, like used to happen to the Taurus.  These are commercial and government fleets, where the trucks will be driven into the ground.

“his rationale for the comment was that the union doesn’t allow workers to own stock in the automaker”

This is complete bullshit right here - nothing forbids workers from owning stock in GM or Ford or FCA.

And the unions have held enormous amounts of stock in those makers, too.

Also note that stock options may or may…

Actually saw a semi doing this on my commute this morning.....

I think the deficit must be all those avocados for those millenials and their toast...

:P

Meh - it’s certainly defamatory and I think he could take it to court and win. The catch is what are the damages. Because if the crazy billionaire  calls you a pedo and everyone knows he’s out of his mind, the damage done to your reputation is probably minimal, even if the statement is completely defamatory.  At that…

You know, Elon, the fact that he hasn’t sued you doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a case. He may simply have judged this as a case where it isn’t worth his time because his reputation hasn’t been tarnished enough because you’ve tarnished your own reputation to the point where no one believes the crap you spewed.

It may be…

To demonstrate how far reliability has come:

This publication gives survival rates for cars, from 1975 to 1993 (Table 1). They also provide estimates for newer cars. Based on the 1975 to 1993 model years. The average car then would last a little over 12 years, and if you had an even distribution of sales year to year,…

Yep... awfully telling when the odometer doesn’t even go to 6 figures.