Yeah gloves are off. Everywhere.

Every time we went to the grocery store or out in public in general I knew that most of the people in those places had voted for trump.

Exactly!

It’s not about excluding Tesla. It’s about excluding high volume EV makers because they don’t need subsidies anymore the same way newer EV makers do. It’s just like the old federal subsidy program that Tesla also capped out on.

It’s not about excluding Tesla. It’s about putting caps on companies who have already reached a high level of EV sales just like the old federal subsidy program that Tesla also capped out on.

“Shockingly, Tesla CEO Elon Musk, a longtime critic of Newsom’s and a close Trump ally, criticized the idea of excluding Tesla from the tax credit program.”

The logic of “he said they don’t need subsidies to sell cars, so Tesla won’t get them” is the kind of hard line I wish more politicians would take.

I’m not sure what reason Newsom is using to exclude Tesla, but I’m fine with the criteria being fuck Elon Musk because he’s a Nazi douchebag.

I agree with everything you said. I visit my mom who’s in a Texas nursing home about twice a year and have the same feeling as you while I’m there. It’s like being behind enemy lines. Last time I was there, I dropped by a local Democratic party headquarters and donated a small portrait of President Grant to them to…

I am originally from rural TN and had to go back there recently to visit my family- who are thankfully not trump supporters, hate his guts, yet live in the middle of it. I hated every second of it. Every time we went to the grocery store or out in public in general I knew that most of the people in those places had…

It’d be stupid if this were a personal beef, but even factoring in what a petty grandstanding asshole Newsom is, the fact of the matter is Elno is actively fucking with politics and causing enormous damage because his feefees are hurt. Newsom quite reasonably doesn’t want to keep paying Elno to do that.

So in other words he'd create space for somebody else to build a larger charging network in one of the biggest car markets in the world?

Elmo said Tesla isn’t a car company anymore, so this shouldn’t matter at all, right?

I would imagine the response from Musk would be to slow down deployment of upgrades/expansion of the Supercharger Network.

Boycott red states, all companies based there, and all products that come from there. Don’t move there, don’t travel there, don’t buy anything from there. Boycott them all.

Fuck Elon.  Bury him and his company into the ground.

Agreed....buckle up. Although I still have a sliver of hope in that there will be a select few in the Republican party who will push back, Matt G dropped quicky for AG...just a sliver of hope I say ;) Mid terms can’t come soon enough!

Market cap is the manufacturers value based on stock prices. A tiny little startup will have a small market cap. For some insane reason, Tesla has a market cap greater than every other automaker combined. I believe what the second sentence implies, is that a company of this size clearly doesnt need assistance selling…

1st Gear:  Musk isn’t much of a chess player, is he?

The Confederacy surrendered but they never quit. Now that they are about to take the reins of our federal government, we real freedom loving Americans in the tax paying Blue States have to find every way possible to undermine the bullying dictators that are going to spend our federal taxes to uphold their bigoted…