I didn’t say I’d fly on a Max, but my next flight, as it happens, is on a 757 and as long as Iran doesn’t shoot it down, I have no doubt that it will complete the flight perfectly safely.

This article has been linked a few times here in the comments, but it’s worth reading:

Bob Slydell : What you do at Initech is you take the specifications from the customer and bring them down to the software engineers?

Flying is still the safest way to travel worldwide, cruises are still luxurious (and if you pay the inflation-adjusted equivalent of what cruises cost “back in the day” they’re extremely plush), the murder rate on cruise ships is far below the murder rate on land, and cars still kill 40,000 people per year in the US.

At work, whenever someone is upset over something that doesn’t warrant any negative emotions, I always say “we’re not landing planes here”. As in, it’s not that serious.
These people ARE working with VERY serious stuff. LIVES ARE AT STAKE! How are they still in business?!

This is horrifying. I work in aerospace for one of those greedy, profit-driven meat grinder corporations and yet, if anyone were to display this attitude, even verbally, we’d dox that person and have them fired in a second.

And remember: None of those assholes responsible for the deaths of more than 100 people will ever see a second of prison time for it. Have a nice day in capitalistopia!

There are many angles this can be approached so i’ll just choose one.

- ALL SOFTWARE RELATED SYSTEMS ARE SHIT UNTIL EMPHATICALLY PROVEN OTHERWISE

Shinkansen bullet trains are the safest way to travel. Over 50 years of service without a single death and virtually always on time.

The responsible thing would have been to properly test everything for Q/A before going live. Instead, they outsourced it to 1 company which outsourced it to another which outsourced to multiple others.

My opinions of this have shifted from Boeing being rotten mostly at the top to the rot being extensive throughout. I don’t know whether I am more disgusted by Boeing itself or by our government for allowing the airline industry to basically self-regulate itself.

Then it’s incumbent on the employees to push back against management in emails instead of antagonize an airline trying not do kill people.

Yeah, no shit, Greg. No wonder you make the big bucks.

If I’m reading this correctly, then that statement Boeing put out is just absolutely galling, because the employee emails included are showing incredulity towards a company asking for training, whereas the statement apologizes for some bad words (whoopty fuckin do) then goes on to say that the sims work properly?…

Flying still is the safest way to travel.

I’d say they doubled down on the Kool aid snorting instead.

They can test, revise, and fix all they like, but I’m not boarding a MAX. Life is already too short. 

Fuck these fucking fucks and ther fucking blase negligent homicide.

A human at Bloomberg probably should have sanity checked that URL:

Looks like Boeing picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......