this is a good point. Yoda doesn’t know who is and isn’t around. He knows about Ezra but that was, at that point, like a decade ago. Unless he was palling around with Ahsoka or Cal off-screen his assessment of how many Jedi there may or may not be is flawed.

Other Jedi could beat Vader in a fight. He wasn’t omnipotent and several jedi brought him to an inch of his life in a few occasions. Take Obi Wan for example.

You’re right tho, Luke was the only one who could help redeem Vader and that was the the hope part.

Luke being the last hope isn’t so much about Luke being a Jedi, it’s about him being a son and still being able to reach Vader on an emotional level that nobody else would be able to and bring him back to the light. Ahsoka, Obi Wan, and others could fight him to a standstill, but that’s not really changing anything.…

Broadly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with caring about continuity, since that’s what enables more ambitious storytelling than a single feature can deliver (ie. serialised storytelling).

It’s weird to me how many people mistake a character saying something in-universe, for an immutable fact being established.

ok, but my point is that

Luke was still the last hope for the jedi. Of those that survived the purge, most of those that remained on the Jedi path died by the end of the OT. The remaining survivors like Ahsoka, Grogu, Cal, and this new character Baylon all turned their backs on continuing/reestablishing the Order. Yes, some of their…

Yoda also kind of lived on a mud ball of a planet and probably didn’t have much outside communications because he was just vibin’ and laying low. Dude probably just really didn’t know how many were really out there. 

luke was the last hope of the Jedi, san Leia. Jedi have tried to beat Vader but failed. no jedi could beat Vader in a fight. It was the fact that Luke was Vader’s son and could redeem Vaders soul that gave the Jedi Hope of survival.

You have to almost admire his pluck in trying to convince people that his ideas are 100% New and Different when they clearly are mostly neither.

How could anyone say with a straight face that it’s not art? It provoked a conversation. It got you to speak up. It offended you! Isn’t that what art is supposed to do?

This. 10,000 is an extremely small number of our own planet’s population (we’re talking decimals of a percent). Now zoom out into a whole galaxy with hundreds of inhabited systems.

People tend to forget that the characters in Star Wars haven’t seen Star Wars.

Where does it state Han’s never heard of the Jedi?  He says he doesn’t believe in The Force, but those are two different things.

Imperial propaganda machine + all the survivors staying in hiding?

Yeah I think the old Legends canon was that the great majority of Jedi weren’t all killed in a single operation, but were hunted down by Vader and the emperor’s force-sensitive assassins like Mara Jade.

They weren’t “all over the galaxy.” There were about 10,000 of them. There are THOUSANDS of planets, with trillions of inhabitants. You really expect everyone in the galaxy to have seen and know about a group of people that’s less than the population of Rhode Island?

Some 10k Jedi across an entire galaxy is not much. Han Solo could have lived his wole life during the height of their power and only ever heard rumors about them.

He had heard of the Jedi, he just thought they were charlatans, e.g., “A lot of simple tricks and nonsense.” And there could be trillions of people, like Din and Carga, who know nothing about the Jedi or the Force. The stories just tend to focus on people who are better informed. 

I just wish chests had rupees in them more often. Hate opening a chest to find yet another weapon.