The heaviest Celica cannot be the true Celica. True Celicas are slow but light.

Disagree. This is the one true Celica:

So buy a G8 GT or Chevy SS. The steering feel would be better, as would the torque. And reliability. And interior space.

The fact that you own a 200k BMW really says it all. Obsessed with the brand, you own a car you can barely afford, while criticizing a car you can’t finance. I ditched my last BMW at 40,000 miles, because it was a complete pain in the ass and required $1,500 in warranty repairs every 2 months, and there was no way I…

I don’t get it , either. It’s like being a fan of speed skating, and trying to understand figure skating. I mean, yes, it’s demanding and requires peak athleticism, but aside from the skates, the two have nothing in common.

I don’t care what the inside or sight lines are like, because I’ll never afford one. As long as it stylistically doesn’t offend me like the old one, it’s good. And this is certainly a good looking car.

Conversely, if you want to turn money into excessive repairs, buy the BMW.

Exactly. And even though the “fanalone” is one of my favorites of all time, I’d never call it that.

Dollar for dollar? I strongly disagree.

This particular variety is know as a “Sabrina” bumper, because misogyny and car culture is a long, foolishly proud tradition:

Exactly. With enough torque, number of gears becomes irrelevant. See Tesla for proof of concept.

A fair and well-justified opinion.The Limgenfelter heritage, plus the Revenge body kit aren’t deal makers for everyone, but to a particular niche, they are highly desirable.   

Burlington, actually. I’m not the type to waste money in the hopes that somebody else notices.

And yet, BMW still can’t make a good oil seal or coil pack. I’ve owned BMWs ranging from a 1974 2002tii to a 2009 E92, and the 2009 was no more reliable than the 1974. That’s not indicative of competent engineering.

That interior is exactly why these things are such performance bargains.

Exactly my point. Here’s a car that’s probably every bit as quick as said Dinan M3, and it costs Altima money. That’s exactly what I’m talking about.

Would I prefer it with a manual? Absolutely. That said, there’s enough torque here that the auto isn’t going to completely suck, and you could easily and cheaply swap in a manual.

With this much torque, you’d be surprised how competent an automatic can be. Most drag cars have automatics for a reason. That said, a manual-swap could be done easily and cheaply.

I like it, despite the meh color choice and automatic. It’s a great low-mileage performance car for 4-banger Camry money. The body kit looks pretty good, and Lingenfelter is a top-shelf tuner of GM V8s.

Right. But over-head valves were 45+ years old at this point.