I feel like we could both hold her responsible for nearly killing other people, including her child, and get her the help she needs. They aren’t mutually exclusive, even if our current system isn’t doing a good job of it.

You have to put it in H!!!!

Not talking about suicide doesn’t prevent it. On the contrary, it makes it more likely that people thinking about it won’t recognize it for what it is in their last lucid moments before they go do the deed.

The problem here is that you’re assuming this woman must be mentally ill because she did something that to us looks incredibly illogical and stupid. My point is that it’s not actually that far removed from other aspects of religion, which require a certain suspension of logic in order to function. Tons of people are…

The religious still control the world, but question their faith and its material impact on their minds and lives, and you’re a bigot.

Whatever the root cause, faith in imaginary beings manipulating your lives isn’t a good thing. At least they have medication to treat mental illness. Religion is much trickier to deal with.

Oh man, what a great image. Just an old bearded deity suddenly appearing in the driver’s seat, and freaking out. “How the shit did I get here oh I know how do I drive this oh that’s how too late!”

Then what are these documents the DMV sends me that say “Certificate of Title” on them that I get when I transfer ownership of a car? They have my name listed as “owner” and I use them to prove ownership of said vehicle and to transfer ownership of it when I sell it. I get the same one regardless of whether I finance…

Fully schizophrenic people can be religious, too, huh?

If anything, it’s another reason to keep your head on a swivel when going through an intersection that you have the right of way on.

Jesus, extremely religious people are just borderline schizophrenic, huh? 

Religion is seriously a poison on humanity.

No you didn’t. If you rent an apartment, you didn’t “pay for that equity”, you paid to use a space. If the building your apartment is in goes up in value, you haven’t earned any equity, because the building isn’t yours. Exact same thing with a lease.

And just like you don’t have to sell your vehicle to someone just because they want to buy it, the owner of these vehicles - the leasing companies - don’t have to sell to anyone they don’t want to.

When I buy a car with financing, I receive a title to that car that has my name as the owner. Same thing with my house that has a mortgage; the deed has my name on it. They both have liens on them, which represents a financial interest, *not* ownership. The bank has certain rights in regards to those properties should…

There is no equity in your interest in the lease. Your interest in the lease is the lease payments, period. The change in value of the vehicle - positive or negative - belongs to the owner of the vehicle, the leasing company. This was never something leasing companies expressly allowed or forbade, because it was a…

If I understand correctly, they can do this because it’s their property, and they can choose who to sell it to, or not.  So unless the lease contract explicitly guarantees the lessee the right to sell to whomever they want, I don’t see why they couldn’t do this.

I don’t see how it’s screwing the lessee either. They’re still getting every single thing owed to them in their contract, it’s just that they can’t take advantage of this totally unprecedented scenario whereby used cars are worth way more than they should be, but in an inverse scenario they wouldn’t be getting hosed…

The dealership surely sin’t the owner of the property either and the lending company does not view the vehicle as their property but the Loan and it’s interest and their property.  The buyer has all the legal risk, they are the owner of any equity.  

There doesn’t have to be anything in the contract as the lessee doesn’t own the car so who it gets sold to isn’t really any of their business.