Instead, the new electric Pacifica will take design inspiration from the Halcyon concept it unveiled back in February.

I have an EV and an ICE minivan. PHEV makes the most sense - I’m usually covering mountainous distance fully loaded with the van, and long recharge stops aren’t on the agenda. Just give me my 30 daily electrcic miles for around town, and not 300 miles of heavy, expansive battery.

The Pacifica PHEV is got a horrible reputation for reliability. The Pacifica isn’t bad. I’ve driven Voyagers and Pacificas as rentals and they are ok, but nothing special.

“The loudest one in the room, is the weakest one in the room.”

Owned a Pacifica hybrid.  It was really good, no real issues with the electrical.  Had  a leaky roof from the shark fin antenna, but they fixed it.

EV with a range-extender engine would be GREAT.

It really wouldn’t take much to win market share in this space. VW has made the unfortunate mistake of positioning the bus as an upmarket halo vehicle, and no one else seems to be making any kind of competition. The PHEV Pacifica has proven out the market for this kind of vehicle - I see no reason why an EV one…

I’m a big proponent of minivans, and a practical EV van (not the overpriced but somehow also not very exciting ID.buzz) would be great to see on the market.

Is Chrysler beyond the initial planning phase on this?

I like the Ioniq 6 for some reason. I can’t figure out why it appeals to me, but it does. Admittedly, though, I do think the Ioniq 5 is better looking.

I love my minivan, even though it is in the shop again (dead alternator with about 280k miles). Thing is that if the options for an EV version are VW and Chrysler, I figure I’ll be using this for my next van.

Whoever answered XM, you are my spirit animal. Now I can take this to my friends who disagree with me and rub it in their face.

Agreed on 2 & 7.

V8 “enthusiasts” are some of the worst when it comes to gatekeeping.

I was in Italy last week and got an Audi Q5 as a rental. On a model with less than 30,000 km, it had:

Not going to lie, I’m pretty disappointed in the Jalop community on this one.

Honda: We can make the Element, the car that looks most like a shoebox.

I know it’s not what you are asking for, but why not make an actual SUV with sliding minivan doors. Like a version of the Grand Cherokee.  Not a slightly lifted minivan.

If that means I can get a gently used Taycan for $30K, I would jump on that. Porsche will still be around and the legacy automakers will just switch to an all hybrid layout hopefully. I can’t imagine them stopping electrification in any way cold turkey for only 4 years, they need to prepare for the next administration…

The $7500 loophole for leases is the one of the reasons I’m in an iX (which is a fantastic car).

Right? Everyone on both sides of the equation gets fucked.

1st - Not shocked. This is likely going to push back mass adoption rates 5-10 years, which is part of the agenda for the administration in the first place. Meanwhile, China will continue to push forward and we will get lapped for the 2nd time in this area. The EV credit being gone is also going to delay public…