I don't think he's the rapist either. Someone was making a point about the men in the show being rubbish except maybe Gordon. I was pointing out Gordon might not be so great either. The only not rubbish guy is the server at the marina cafe.

Hannah and Jessa were friends at the beginning, but it was predicated on the people they were and they evolved beyond it. Hannah started figuring out enough of her own $hit to where she stopped being enamored of her image of perfect Jessa. Jessa is so burrowed into her own self-delusion that Hannah figuring things out…

Or just the fact that Renata is so focused on Ziggy that if he's kicked out and isn't responsible, Amabella will continue to be abused and even less open with her mom.

Ooh, that was a good one. I still think Blair Underwood should've been given an Emmy for his role the first season.

Probably when she replaces Crawford in Hush …Hush, Sweet Charlotte.

Going on birth control, after talking to Bonnie… hmmm…. makes it creepier.

His question about why Madeline was in Joseph's car…he knows, right?

IRL a spouse appreciating good looking people isn't bad (although if your spouse catches you doing it a lot and isn't comfortable with it, it could be an issue).

HBO's In Treatment was good, except when it went a little soap opera-y.

I don't think owning the gun is disturbing. Going alone to see a man you believe might be your rapist, at his office, with a loaded gun in your purse, is disturbing.

Holy moly, the one person whom she's wanted approval from is Chloe. Hmm…That would be a crazy twist though (although it would make sense why Ziggy wouldn't say anything).

My guess is Ziggy will get Jane's gun and shoot his father.

True but I'd think she'd want to know what her (and Ziggy's) rights are with the school. I guess she's saying she would move as a solution, but but crap can follow you to a new place.

Gordon eyes every pretty woman in the room. Not saying he's a cheater, but not saying he's not one either.

I think Renata's overblown response is fueled by guilt of her career distracting from her parental responsibilities. Amabella not telling her what's going on has to be eating at Renata, on top of the fear/ anger any parent will feel about their child being abused at school. I can't say I'd be reasonable about the…

and Janeane Garofalo

Is Bonnie supposed to be relegated to a one dimensional object of lust and derision? Or are we supposed to feel sympathy that she's been ostracized by the other mothers and no one takes her seriously?

I thought he had money…?

Madeline's cackle at the café was my everything.

It's impressive how completely self centered Nathan sounded while blathering on about that. What a martyr to do things because it makes your spouse happy.