@tempesjo: Replying to you so you can see orbit and Moser's comments as well.

@Moser121: Exactly, and when you are trying to correct over those bumps with a controller, you are much less likely to do so smoothly and in small enough increments, which slows you down a lot.

"Don't worry — it's not really a hatchback."

@orbit: I had the same result with the 'ring, especially cutting down times where the road is the most technical. My faster cars had a tendency to dip into the grass and spin. On the rare occasion that that happens now, I can more easily keep it from spinning.

@slightlyhardup: Glad to hear. I often seek relief in the presence of fast, finely styled cars. It does the body good...

@jodark: It was completely broken earlier, but it kinda works now if you are patient and refresh a few times. Tags have been borked for almost a week now...

@They call me MISTER Scroggs!:

@slightlyhardup: Careful, this has been cross posted to Jalopnik.

@AristotlesCrab: Since he already repaints all his prancing horses, that would likely not be far from the truth.

I always just assumed he rode a horse... Shouldn't his garage be a stable?

@CobraJoe: A 3 door Genesis hatch would be interesting...

@D0rk: The only thing I can really think of is something that is actually an issue for me, and one of the reasons I only drive coupes: At 6'4", I find it to be a pain in the ass to get into most 4-door cars with their tiny doors. (I make an exception for wagons...) With this setup, you can have a larger driver's…

Careful, Hyundai; you are running dangerously close to becoming relevant.

@pres: Fuzzy monochromatic cookies. Think of it as getting your daily allotment of greens.

@tempesjo: No problem. I was a pretty hard sell on it as well, being a slave to what I was familiar with. It is a fairly steep learning curve if you are used to the controller. What helped me was starting back with something more underpowered and working my way back up again. The seasonal events with the Fiat…

@pres:

@tempesjo: Once oppo is back open, this would be a good subject to bring up there, since I know there are a few that own it now. I can reiterate my experience with it there too.

@tempesjo: Yeah, there really isn't any reason to draw such a parallel in this context without the intention of trolling. The only reason I am still here is because tags seem to be fully broken now and I can't get into #oppositelock. (Feel free to let the irony set in there...)

@tempesjo: It wouldn't surprise me. However, this thread fails to deliver on anything remotely resembling intelligent discourse. Not that I have come to expect anything more from most GT5 or Forza threads...

@pres: Interesting. I have no idea what to make of your comment, so I will ignore it.